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Should one reveal being diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder / Asperger Syndrome when applying for an IT job?

From the one side this information could help getting the job. Asperger Syndrome is related with high intelligence and very poor social skills, so people with that syndrome are often brilliant programmers, but they find it very difficult to sell their skills and are rejected during recruitment process. They find it especially difficult to answer inconcrete, fuzzy questions such as "what are your strong and weak sides*, "what are your plans/expectations" etc. When the recruiters knows that they are speaking with autistic person, they would take it into account, that failure to answer to such questions doesn't mean, that one has no strong sides or is not ambitious etc.

On the other side, the word Disorder could close the doors. The potential employer could simply reject such person because they would be afraid of possible difficulties in integrating such person to the team or just are disorder-phobic and don't want handicapped people in their company to avoid potential troubles.

So, what must be taken into account? What are the pros and the cons of revealing such fact to the future employer and what is the best to do?

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It would seem to me that if I had this disorder the first step would be to know what my weaknesses are. Since these questions are pretty typical one would need to work with peers, friends, and their family to come up with answers to those difficult questions for them. There is nothing that with enough effort you cannot complete. Most everyone needs to prepare for an interview. A person with AS might need to prepare a great deal more but they can still have the answers to those questions. – Ramhound Jun 28 '12 at 15:29
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Asking for pros and cons is a quintessential "Not Constructive" question unless it is extremely narrowly focused, which this question is not. There should be very singular points each answer should get at to avoid the problem of all answers being equally valid or talking about totally different things. I've closed this question though I think a much more focused question or questions could be appropriate. – Rarity Jun 28 '12 at 20:29
But when I the question have formuled: "Should I..." than it would be the same and will not be considered 'non-constructive'? – volkerjaan Jun 29 '12 at 17:52

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Why would you think that a Neurotypical ( NT ) person would consider Aspergers a benefit?

From the one side this information could help getting the job.

If you think that having Aspergers will help you get a job you really do have a total lack of understanding of how NT peoples thought processes work. They don't care about potential brilliance as much as they care about difficult personality.

The NT tends to play it safe, and would rather have a team of all mediocre NT staff than risk one supposedly brilliant person mucking up the works by having everyone else have to deal with their idiosyncrasies.

Software development in the corporate world is about teamwork, revealing that you don't have innate skills to deal with people isn't going to endear you to anyone that is trying to build a productive team.

It is a misconception that Aspergers correlates to High Cognitive Abilities.

Here is a great discussion on why there is this misconception, and what the reality is. Below is just a snippet of the entire article - Are All Aspies Geniuses?.

The Reality

It's important to remember that aspergers often carries with it comorbid conditions, such as ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar, Schizophrenia, Learning Difficulties & OCD. Many of these conditions interfere with the aspie's ability to learn, particularly in the same conditions as neurotypical children.

NT employees are hard enough to deal with without throwing a wildcard into the mix.

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+1 for invoking the term 'neurotypical.' – satyrwilder Jun 28 '12 at 7:22

I have never been diagnosed, but it's pretty certain that I have Asperger Syndrome. I have most of the related traits.

I dislike that it is called a disorder or that people relate it to autism. (I used to work with autistic children -- while they may both be related to childhood development, there is very little else to connect the two.) It is, put simply, a set of related personality traits, like being judgemental or extroverted. It does not, unless you allow it to, stop you from functioning like anyone else.

With that in mind, let me put it to you this way: If I interviewed you, I would probably recognise the traits in you pretty quickly, and I would not care one bit. You are not automatically a good developer because we share some personality traits. Nor are you automatically a bad one. I know nothing about your ability to do the job based purely on your AS.

No good will come of your pointing it out to me. No bad will come of it either, but that's not the point.

If, however, I am one of the many people who have heard Asperger Syndrome related to autism, and my only experience of autism is watching Rain Man, what am I going to make of your admission? Think about it, seriously. At best, I'm going to assume you're hard to deal with and prone to tantrums. At worst, I'm going to think you cannot function as part of a team. Or I might, in fact, think that you throw that information around as a preemptive excuse for bad behaviour, like some (not all) people do with ADHD.

If you don't point it out to me then I may be able to notice that you don't have the best social skills and that you're extremely precise and logical. If I'm in a position of managing developers, I have probably seen this before and learned to deal with it. I'm not going to think much of it unless your job requires high social skills (in which case you don't want it anyway).

I cannot think of a single reason why you would want to push this information in an interview. It cannot benefit you. It can cost you. And in the end, it has no bearing on your job; it is not information an interviewer should feel aggrieved that you failed to offer.

That said, I wouldn't lie about it either; lying in an interview is always bad. If asked directly, I'd say that I certainly follow some of the behaviour patterns.

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"I dislike that [...] people relate it to autism." Oh? But it is related to autism. And it's not related to childhood development; you're born with it. And, finally, it is certainly more than a set of personality traits; it's a real obstacle that the aspie needs to learn to deal with (in spite of the advantages it usually comes with). Nevertheless, aside from that one paragraph, I can totally agree with the rest of your answer. So, +1. – AlbeyAmakiir Jun 27 '12 at 22:40
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@AlbeyAmakiir: You are born with a specific Myers-Briggs personality profile too. And, if you are in the minority of any part of that, you also have to learn to adjust to society's "norms". Ask any introvert (the smallest of the minorities) about how society is set up for extroverts. I still don't see the difference. – pdr Jun 27 '12 at 22:49
Well, I still disagree (and I do so enjoy a good disagreement ;) ), but this probably isn't the place to go on with it. Especially since it's irrelevant to the question. – AlbeyAmakiir Jun 27 '12 at 23:32
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@SnOrfus: I believe that name was given by Asperger, when researching the condition. It was later renamed to Asperger's because high-functioning autism is an oxymoron. – pdr Jun 28 '12 at 13:50
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Personally, I don't think this, or any other medical condition should come up, because it just shouldn't matter - unless it will have a significant and obvious impact on the job.

Employers might not want to hear about it, because if they fail to hire you, they might worry that you'll accuse them of discrimination based on your condition.

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It's important to let your employer know about your condition and make sure that the appropriate accomodations are made for you. However, as others have pointed out, if they're aware of your condition during the interview, it may affect their judgement.

One option to consider is informing them after the interview (or after you receive an offer) but before accepting it. Depending on where you live, there are legal ramifications to discriminating based on disabilities (for example, in the USA, this is covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act). Being forthright about your condition will also help you to get better working conditions as suited to your needs, which is important to both your interests and your employers'.

Everyone has different levels of understanding about autism/Aspergers or any other condition. I wouldn't depend on it to help you or hurt you in a job interview (it could do either), but be deliberate about how you present it to potential employers.

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What accommodations, exactly, are you suggesting the OP needs? – pdr Jun 28 '12 at 9:41
@Jimmy - It is horrible advice to tell your employeer about a medical condition. This places them in a position in knowing information they are not allowed to ask you. Which means once they know that information they can use it against you, and often times, there is nothing you can do about it. Once you are hired that is an entirely different story. – Ramhound Jun 28 '12 at 15:26
@pdr I don't know what types of accomodations are common for autism or Aspergers, but it could be as simple as setting expectations for performance or behavior. Some disabilities may require more obvious accomodations. For example, I have a friend with muscular dystrophy who works as a software developer even though his movement is limited to head and hands (but he can't move his arms). – Jimmy Jun 28 '12 at 16:25
@Ramhound I agree that it's not a good idea to tell them before or during the interview. But once they've extended a job offer, there may not be harm (and can be some benefit) to disclosing it. In either event, I would recommend that the OP or whoever think carefully about the need to disclose. – Jimmy Jun 28 '12 at 16:27
@Ramhound Citing another personal example: my wife is visually impaired to the point of being considered legally blind and bipolar to boot. She often discloses the blind during interviews because it does have significant impact on her ability to peform in her field (though she also points out that she has years of experience in the field). She recently disclosed the bipolar to her boss because she's adjusting her medication, which can lead to unexpected behavior on the job. It's all about making a calculated disclosure. – Jimmy Jun 28 '12 at 16:41
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IME, it depends enormously on the position you're interviewing for, and how you deliver it. Both of those trace to your internalization of it.

For one thing, bear in mind: Aspbergers' is a syndrome, not a pathology. The same is true for autism. It's a collection of symptoms, most of which just so happen to compliment tech fields. To the point of cliche.

It's really not a big deal. Discrimination happens when prejudices are triggered, so avoid this by wrapping it in humor. I broach the topic in an interview like, don't you kind of have to be at least a little autistic to do what we do? I mean, what are we doing, really? We're stacking blocks. We put those blocks inside other blocks, and then we stack them again.

We're playing with Legos. For a living.

This makes it amusing, and light-hearted, and firmly frames the topic as being a person with autism, not an autistic with person. The idea that it's a 'disorder' is completely avoided: obviously we're ideally suited for this task, and how does 'disorder' fit into that? The end.

On the occasion coworkers / bosses inquire (always after hire ;) ), the dialogue follows these lines: yeah, I really am autistic. It's whatever. Sarcasm is sometimes lost on me. I default to stone-cold literal, meaning sometimes I will react completely literally to what I couldn't tell was a joke, and I won't even stop to wonder if you were serious until you start looking at me like I'm the weird one. :P Sometimes, you'll ask me a question and I'll deep-dive to no apparent in a quest to provide a complete answer. It's a bit annoying, especially for me - but hey, at least I take you seriously. ^_^

Anyway, that's how I deal with it. HTH :)

--- Edited to add context and clarify strategy for demonstrating this as desirable

So, interviewing, for me, is necessarily for senior dev. I expect to speak with multiple people - often the entire team. The ratio of business-facing (ie, the project manager) to devs is usually ~1:3-4 and at least one will be the lead dev. It's a luxury - being able to safely presuming everyone is well-versed in the culture of software dev, business or dev.

The key is in your thinking: your technical skills are the reason they're interested in you to begin with! Emphasize this and how it translates into, say, the apparently uncanny knack for delivering what they WANT, based on what they SAY. Conversely, play down frustrating traits (ie, deep-diving technical issues unto infinity, etc - you know how we can be, I'm sure ;) ) with humor. This creates the contrast necessary for potential employers to perceive your dx as flattering, instead of prohibitive.

-- hth :)

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obviously we're ideally suited for this task Are you really though? Most employers who would pay you to put together legos depend on you to have interpersonal skills so that you are able to interpret complex requirements and needs from limited information and engagement. Every job I have had in IT, I was required to talk the business with others and work closely with business people. The technical part was just a small facet of this. – maple_shaft Jun 28 '12 at 11:44
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-- And, yes. I am. I program in 8 languages thanks to the ol' advantageous long-term memory. Photographic recall, sensitivity to patterns and pattern recognition, repetition, ability to tunnel concentration for days on end, affinity for patterned abstraction - autism is a proverbial prehensile tail for IT, especially programmers. Ftw. ;) – satyrwilder Jun 29 '12 at 0:59
It's a pity that so many managers require for programmers to carry out for the trash they can't handle themselves (crippled analyse etc.) – volkerjaan Jun 29 '12 at 17:54

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