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When going to interviews, I often want to take a peek at how the company works on the inside, but they may not show you everything or want to "keep up appearances" to make them more inviting. Obviously the latter is expected when management wants to really sell the job to you, especially if the company is a well-talked about brand.

But then there have been those times where I take a job and some nasty skeletons come out of the closet.

An actual experience follows: An owner of company A interviewed me and mis-represented his company by showing a large work environment, when in fact all that space belonged to a different company B. He told me A and B are in a partnership so I assumed the space was shared. It was not until a month later I found out that A's owner works for B and subleased a small space from B to run company A on the side. So A's own employees don't represent B, work in a cramped area and receive no company benefits from either A or B, as A is too small of a company to afford fancy things like that.

There wasn't much info about his company online, so it was hard to do research on. How to I look for warning signs like this in the future, before I take the plunge and find out when it's too late?

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When you get the contract, look at who exactly you are signing it with and look up that legal entity online. That would give you an idea... – Oded Aug 21 '12 at 17:54
to extend on what @Oded said, never sign there. Always take the contract home and read it carefully first. Most places will be willing to give you a day or two to look things over. During this time, conduct your research about the particular company named. – acolyte Aug 21 '12 at 18:55
The contract did state the only the name of Company A. They weren't a registered company back then. I think the first thing that should've been suspect is when the front desk of the office building couldn't find Company A in the directory. – Chris C Aug 21 '12 at 19:29
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There wasn't much info about his company online that was your first clue. – Chad Aug 21 '12 at 20:33
@ChrisC So what does any of this have to do with the ethics of their business practices? We are all trying to make money in the game so as long as they don't lie, cheat, steal, harm or break any laws then I don't understand the grudge. To me the only problem here is that you weren't paying enough attention to what he was clearly telling you and now you find that you don't fit in with the culture of this company. You didn't necessarily make a mistake, sometimes we give it a go based on limited information and if it doesn't work out then we move on. This is NOT Company A's fault. – maple_shaft Aug 22 '12 at 11:10
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I have found two things to be extremely helpful:

  1. Go to lunch with one or two people form the team you are trying to get hired on. Ask them as many questions as you can and try to get adequate information on what it would be like to work in that group. Preferably, this should happen on a separate day from the interview.

  2. Ask everyone you meet to list one good thing and one bad thing about working at the company.

On (2) if they can't give you some sort of substantive answer for both pieces, then that should be an instant red flag. No company is perfect, but the ones trying to improve will be open about their shortcomings and will be able to tell you what they are trying to do to overcome them.

I don't know what your profession is, but adapting your own Joel Test during an interview can be extremely helpful as well. You should have a set list of questions about how the company operates on a day-to-day basis in order to help you make a more informed decision.

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This assumes you have met more than one person... – Oded Aug 21 '12 at 18:04
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@Oded definitely... but I would argue that you shouldn't accept a job after talking to just one person – Robert Greiner Aug 21 '12 at 18:04
Absolutely, but if you read the anecdote from the OP, I get the impression they only ever spoke to one person... – Oded Aug 21 '12 at 18:05
@Oded I got the same impression, at that point, it's pretty much a gamble whether you will be happy there or not – Robert Greiner Aug 21 '12 at 18:08
@RobertGreiner - I would say that it is a clue that the company is not well managed if the management is not willing to let you meet anyone else but wants to hire you. – Chad Aug 23 '12 at 15:07
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"receive no company benefits from either A or B, as A is too small of a company to afford fancy things like that" - that shouldn't have been a surprise that you learned after you started work. Every job offer I have ever seen for professional position included a description of benefits: vacation, sick , holidays, health insurance, life insurance, education benefits, pension, 401K. Even if they don't provide all the options they do discuss the ones they have.

You need to know things like the number of locations, where the employees work, where is the company HQ. It is OK to work at a customer site, but they should let you know where the rest of the company works. They will be handling HR, purchasing, management...

The actual working conditions will depend on the work location. The customer site may control hardware, software, and office space. The customer site may be more or less impressive then the company site.

You also need to know the other contracts they have to judge their ability to provide a follow on contract if the current contract ends. A small number of contracts, with growth but an inability to keep current employees is a warning flag.

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