Timeline for It seems as though my employer wants me to come into work when I'm ill. Am I missing something?
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| Jan 29, 2018 at 12:57 | comment | added | A.S | @O.R.Mapper Appreciate your point and agree in principle. The implied possibility of monetization of unused sick leave comes from my knowledge of certain organizations in the U.S., e.g. government or public institutions, where accumulated sick leave can be converted into credits for offsetting health insurance premiums in retirement. This works OK for employees who never get sick, but is a perverse incentive for those who do, but keep showing up (and possibly putting the health of others at risk) only because they want to save on health ins later. It's less common in private sector, I believe. | |
| Jan 29, 2018 at 7:24 | comment | added | O. R. Mapper | @A.S.: That makes sense, but I still think the statement that mainly implies a certain disconnect from the OP's situation is "Unused sick leave is often not paid out upon separation from the company, so you better use it." The idea that sick leave is a resource with a fixed limit that could even possibly be converted into money strikes me as so alien that it distracts a bit from the practical focus you emphasize in your comment. | |
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| Jan 25, 2018 at 20:02 | comment | added | A.S | @PeterTaylor The point you are making seems valid from an administrative point of view. In a practical sense, however, I would say that any time someone chooses against taking sick leave because of some incensive/disincentive constraint, when legally they could take it, could afford to take it, and in all honesty feel that they probably should take it, represents a case of unused sick leave -- whether it is formally considered such from policy / administrative standpoint or not. | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 19:37 | comment | added | Peter Taylor | The thing which @AndyT's comment doesn't IMO communicate effectively (and your response to him reinforces that impression) is that there is no such thing as "unused sick leave". Attempting to apply US thinking about sick leave to the UK is a category error. | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 19:26 | comment | added | A.S | @reirab Indeed, and I didn't say anything about it necessarily being 'paid', though as you say it is indeed the case with most respectable US employers. | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 19:06 | comment | added | reirab | @A.S Paid sick leave is not a right in the U.S. Security of your job when off for health reasons is legally protected, but such leave doesn't legally have to be paid (though most companies do anyway.) | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 17:17 | comment | added | A.S | @AndyT Thanks for clarification, it is interesting to note these differences. You could probably say the same about the U.S., except that here the amount of leave also varies company to company, which means the interpretation of the 'right' is subjective. Things like "generous sick leave" are also frequently mentioned in the Benefits section of employment sections on company websites, suggesting that at least from HR standpoint sick leave is packaged as a 'perk' (while in reality it may certainly be a mandated requirement). | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 15:22 | comment | added | AndyT | Sick leave is not a benefit in the UK, it is a right. Whether it's paid, at what rate, and for how long, is set down statutorily, but many companies offer better terms, which could be construed as a "benefit". | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 15:13 | comment | added | MSalters | @Erik: The EU has minimum standards on sick leave, but a quick reading suggests they only kick in after 16 days (and last up to one year), and only cover 80% of the regular wage. Countries are allowed to have higher standards, companies can offer benefits on top of that, and finally may make individual exceptions. E.g. Netherlands has 1 day unpaid, and many companies either offer 0 days as a benefit or in informal practice. | |
| Jan 25, 2018 at 14:39 | comment | added | Erik | I'm not sure if "sick leave" is a benefit in the UK, it might be a EU thing where you can take as much sick leave as you need, whenever you need it, and it's not in any package. | |
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