Timeline for Ex-Boss not giving me my experience letter ("Arbeitszeugnis")
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| Jan 23, 2020 at 8:48 | history | rollback | Aida Paul |
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| Jan 23, 2020 at 0:37 | history | edited | Gregory Currie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 18, 2019 at 8:11 | vote | accept | Ali Turab Abbasi | ||
| Mar 14, 2019 at 21:56 | comment | added | Donald | @AliTurabAbbasi - You should continue press for a result. You shouldn't wait months between a followup. I do agree with others that you should apologize for the lie At this point I doubt it could hurt your relationship with your former employer. If you wait months, your employer, will continue to postpone it. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 13:50 | comment | added | Ali Turab Abbasi | No. As a proof that I am experienced professional for future job interviews. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 11:46 | comment | added | Gregory Currie | @AliTurabAbbasi When do you need it by? Is this to complete your schooling? | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 11:42 | comment | added | Ali Turab Abbasi | I know @GregroyCurrie. I guess it's just the guilt maybe. It's been 3.5 months and still nothing from his side. Now i'll wait again and if I still don't get any response in 2-3 months then i guess I should ask again, right? | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 11:37 | comment | added | Gregory Currie | @AliTurabAbbasi You don't need to justify yourself to us :) Anyway, depending on how pressing it is, you may want to just give him a break. It sounds like preparing the document will take time. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 10:05 | comment | added | Ali Turab Abbasi | I agree I should't have lied but I was confused and I'm pretty sure he would have insisted that i shouldn't leave if I would've told him the truth. All I ask him is the certificate of employment. I had a very good working relation with him before this. I still think he should've not acted like this because this happens all the time. People lie. I just wanted to avoid that discussion of him trying to convince me to not leave and yes this is in Germany. I've been sending him emails but now he's not even replying. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:51 | history | edited | Gregory Currie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:46 | comment | added | Gregory Currie | @MartinBonner My limited understanding in this area is showing. In Australia we have what's called a "Proof of Employment". It's a very simple document which just lists dates of employment and duties. It is quite different from a "reference" which is optional. I think there is a basic form of Arbeitzeugnis which may be suitable here? | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:44 | comment | added | Gregory Currie | @Atizs Well, ethically, I would say not. It's not mandatory at all, as I said, but that doesn't excuse a lie. Having said that, we have to be practical here. The employer is clearly offended. You can apologise and hope that would appease them, or just hope they get over it. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:34 | comment | added | Martin Bonner supports Monica | Writing up an Arbeitszeugnis is really not to be recommended. There are a lot of legal restrictions on what an employer can say. A normal reading of even the most damning of Arbeitszeugnis will look rather positive; you have to know the code (and see what has been left out) to understand it. (I suspect this is what is causing the delay - the employer has no experience of writing a critical Arbeitzeugnis, and doesn't want to be sued.) | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:32 | comment | added | user100470 | I disagree. Apologize for what? Companies lie constantly, for example about why they rejected a candidate. Giving a reason for leaving is a courtesy, not something mandatory, mind you. Was it ethical to lie? Questionable. Should he apologize? No way. | |
| Mar 14, 2019 at 9:15 | history | answered | Gregory Currie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |