Timeline for Applicants clearly not having the skills they advertise
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| Jun 16, 2019 at 18:37 | answer | added | Gray Sheep | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jun 8, 2019 at 6:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/1137237997114593280 | ||
| Jun 7, 2019 at 3:05 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jun 3, 2019 at 12:29 | history | protected | mcknz | ||
| Jun 3, 2019 at 10:19 | comment | added | gazzz0x2z | electric engineering is not something you can learn on the fly as IT. Being strict on diplomas seems mandatory to me(while fo IT, I'd be far more interested in someone who loves solving problems, and is good at it). | |
| Jun 3, 2019 at 10:01 | answer | added | Peter | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 1, 2019 at 12:50 | answer | added | Jason Paringa | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jun 1, 2019 at 6:34 | comment | added | Mookuh | @PeterMortensen edited to clarify what I meant. | |
| Jun 1, 2019 at 6:33 | history | edited | Mookuh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 1, 2019 at 6:30 | comment | added | Mookuh | To clarify, "not knowing Ohm's law" was more of a highlight / illustration of the fact that the person could not name a single concept related to their supposed field of study. There was other experience on the resumé too that were related to the field, but I'm excluding them for anonymitie's sake. Also, I did not hire them, they were hired before I become responsible for the department. | |
| Jun 1, 2019 at 0:56 | comment | added | Aaron F | @RogerBohn good comment. From the sounds of the OP, it seems they're excluding anyone who hasn't been to university. I don't have experience with electrical engineers, but I have a lot with programmers; and having a degree or not having a degree has absolutely no bearing on someone's skill as a programmer. Then again, I still remember Ohm's law from my Physics classes. I suppose it also helps that I maintain an interest in tinkering with electronics :-/ | |
| Jun 1, 2019 at 0:33 | comment | added | Roger Bohn | Is it hard to find suitable recruits? Many of the responses are good suggestions about how to screen people OUT. But if you are too rigid in testing students on academic terminology, you may also screen out people with good skills that did not come from academia. In addition, when I need students to do minor programming, I avoid Comp Sci vocabulary. "Install RStudio, follow instructions in back of the book." They may end course with no idea what an IDE is, or relationship between R and RStudio. Still, your examples are scary! And egregious lying =danger sign. (Speaking as an American!) | |
| May 31, 2019 at 19:19 | comment | added | DarthFennec | You'd be surprised. A number of my classmates in my final year of undergrad had apparently managed to get through seven semesters, yet they clearly had no idea what they were doing. Blank looks when I mentioned basic concepts, asks for help with the most trivial problems, lots of code copied from Stack Overflow without any real understanding. I get the impression that if you really try, you can get through a degree fairly well by relying on others for assignments, and doing short-term "cramming" before exams that doesn't actually involve true understanding or long-term memorization. | |
| May 31, 2019 at 17:34 | comment | added | Acccumulation | @J... Your comment is rather victim-blaming. | |
| May 31, 2019 at 17:29 | comment | added | jmbpiano | @PLL What you say is true, but in the specific case of Ohm's law, I strongly suspect it's less relevant. I don't pretend to be an expert in cross-culture/language differences in the realm of electronics, but given Ohm's name is the base SI unit for electrical resistance, I would expect it to be somewhat more easily recalled than that of most dead white guys. | |
| May 31, 2019 at 14:18 | comment | added | PLL | @Mookuh: in case you missed it, Haem’s point is that answering “no” to “Are you familiar with Ohm’s law?” doesn’t mean they don’t know Ohm’s law, it just means they don’t know the name ‘Ohm’s law’ for it, which is much less important than the formula itself. Did you try asking something like “What is the relationship between voltage and current in a resistor?” as a followup? Formulas are known and taught with different names in different places; also, some people are good at remembering/understanding physical formulas, but bad at remembering names. | |
| S May 31, 2019 at 13:12 | history | edited | Mookuh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S May 31, 2019 at 13:12 | history | suggested | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 31, 2019 at 11:15 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | Even I can [vaguely] recall Ohm's law. I learnt about it in school, decades ago, before specialising in any way. I never took any sort of electronics course and remain sh!t at electronics to this day. Remarkable oversight! | |
| May 31, 2019 at 10:15 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | What do you mean by "this a the new boss"? | |
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| May 31, 2019 at 7:02 | comment | added | Mookuh | @Haem They never heard the concept. I believe the question was "Are you familiar with Ohm's law?" - No. | |
| May 31, 2019 at 6:57 | comment | added | Haem | As a minor nitpick, when you say "did not know Ohm's law", do you mean they did not know voltage is current times resistance, or that they couldn't name-drop he correct dead white guy? | |
| May 31, 2019 at 5:48 | comment | added | Zaibis | I am a bit confused what you are actually asking? So you are asking if there is such a fraud actually taking commonly place? Or are you asking if your suspect is correct? Or what exactly is it? Also, you calrify that you don't think this was the case for the former examples you gave, but what are they relevant then for for this question? | |
| May 31, 2019 at 3:35 | comment | added | mckenzm | Ohm's law is high school. I can understand transformer confusion since the only examples many people see also involve bridge rectifiers and buck/boost or switched mode is trendy now. Nobody uses transistors any more, we use op-amps. Think too about the national security aspect if their state is suspected to be involved. Genuine testamurs but no genuine attendance. | |
| S May 31, 2019 at 3:28 | history | suggested | Konrad Rudolph | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 30, 2019 at 22:35 | answer | added | cmm | timeline score: 10 | |
| May 30, 2019 at 19:55 | comment | added | Basic | In the UK students sign waivers at Uni allowing companies to verify qualifications without a data breach. That said... We once hired a marine engineer with excellent qualifications. He was sent out to do an inspection on an LPG support ship, and we had to recall him when he submitted a plan that involved flooding the ship from the inside while in a dry dock to check for leaks. We called the issuing bodies and the qualifications were all fake. | |
| May 30, 2019 at 14:27 | vote | accept | Mookuh | ||
| May 30, 2019 at 12:50 | comment | added | Shadur-don't-feed-the-AI | Possibly relevant: thecodelesscode.com/case/187 | |
| May 30, 2019 at 12:40 | comment | added | J... | Next time you hire someone, ask them what Ohm's law is in the interview. All this story tells us is that your hiring process has some glaring holes. You can try to blame the employee, but at the end of the day you're the one who hired them. | |
| May 30, 2019 at 12:12 | answer | added | Rui F Ribeiro | timeline score: 1 | |
| May 30, 2019 at 10:40 | comment | added | T.J. Crowder | "...One of them displayed very poor workplace morale (constantly on the phone, showing no initiative on their own...)..." FWIW, that's not what morale means. | |
| May 30, 2019 at 8:29 | comment | added | Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen | You can always ask them to present their examination papers as part of the hiring process. I had to recently, to prove I was entitled to a specific set of employment ("overenskomst"). | |
| May 30, 2019 at 8:16 | comment | added | Juha Untinen |
OT: forging a signature easy anyone can fake anyone's signature with a little bit of practice. It should never be used as proof of identity - there are proper tools for that, such as 2FA bank authentication.
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| May 30, 2019 at 7:50 | answer | added | Chris H | timeline score: 57 | |
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| May 29, 2019 at 19:10 | history | edited | Mookuh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 29, 2019 at 16:19 | answer | added | user | timeline score: 2 | |
| May 29, 2019 at 16:17 | answer | added | Solomon Rutzky | timeline score: 31 | |
| May 29, 2019 at 16:11 | history | edited | user | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 29, 2019 at 7:18 | answer | added | virolino | timeline score: -4 | |
| May 29, 2019 at 7:14 | answer | added | Magisch | timeline score: 73 | |
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| May 29, 2019 at 6:27 | answer | added | Solar Mike | timeline score: 113 | |
| May 29, 2019 at 5:59 | history | edited | Mookuh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 29, 2019 at 5:50 | history | asked | Mookuh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |