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May 26, 2023 at 13:15 comment added mobileDev14 @NuclearHoagie, I agree with you that my reaction to this incident doesn't reflect well on my general working relationship. While a large part of this is due to an emotional overreaction, some part is due to a sincere effort to not miss signals that a place of work isn't a good fit. For context, I've stayed too long at previous roles that weren't a good fit. I realize that five weeks isn't "too long", but I was trying to ascertain how much force to give this incident in my discernment of "fit" for my current role.
May 26, 2023 at 9:34 comment added bytepusher People are busy. Stuck in another meeting? Happens all the time, especially for more senior people. Also having to finish their work, probably. Personally, I try to schedule meetings about non-urgent things at a time that I know is a bit more relaxed - this will differ from company to company. Getting frustrated about moving a meeting won't help anyone.
May 25, 2023 at 17:05 comment added Nuclear Hoagie "Coming off strong" is a good way to put it. The fact that the OP is considering quitting over a single missed meeting merely a month into the job is valuable subtext about the general working relationship, and not in a good way.
May 25, 2023 at 2:42 comment added keshlam I'd wait a few months, maybe a year until I was sure I understood the current system. Then, if I still felt it was worth discussing, I'd open it as a wishlist item in the ticketing system, let people discuss its importance and priority (you know those are separate variables, right) and discuss what the right solution might look like and what the benefits and costs of changing it would be. Then wait for it to come to the top of the queue, to be killed outright as misguided, or to fall off the bottom of the queue as not important enough to be worth the investment.
May 25, 2023 at 1:56 comment added mobileDev14 @Nelson, thanks for your perspective. Would you totally drop this initiative for the foreseeable future, even though the other team members invited me to revisit in two weeks? FWIW, I’m leaning towards letting it go unless our manager says otherwise.
May 25, 2023 at 1:52 comment added mobileDev14 @ToddWilcox, thanks for your perspective on this. It is helpful context, which I didn’t have before.
May 25, 2023 at 1:45 comment added Todd Wilcox @mobileDev14 Missing a meeting suggested by a new team member who is not my supervisor is something I would feel hardly any guilt about. Missing a standing meeting or meeting called by anyone above me in the org chart I would only do with a really good reason. Not all meetings are created equal.
May 25, 2023 at 1:39 comment added Nelson @mobileDev14 This is not what you want to do. This component most likely has significant impact in their workflow, and you sticking your hand in it isn't going to help them because you're not up-to-speed with their process yet.
May 24, 2023 at 20:20 comment added mobileDev14 Thanks for the additional insight. I didn’t initially want to get management to involved, but I think you’re right that if I have management by end, the process will be more straightforward.
May 24, 2023 at 16:26 comment added keshlam And if you're proposing process change, the person you need to sell it to is probably the manager, then let them sell it to the group. Process change is more expensive than you may realize, and often less productive than expected, and too many people have seen too many cycles of that to be enthusiastic about "I was taught it's better to do it this way" or "I really like this tool" unless they have a LOT of respect for the person proposing it and it can be tested/introduced incrementally. Evolution is easier than revolution.
May 24, 2023 at 16:23 comment added keshlam People get distracted. Especially when the meeting isn't on an issue they feel they have a personal stake in or concern about, or when they feel the topic could be handled better informally or by email. MANAGEMENT can call a meeting and expect everyone to show up whether they are especially interested/receptive or not; peers often can't unless it's clear that a meeting is the necessary next step to work things through in realtime.
May 24, 2023 at 16:21 vote accept mobileDev14
May 24, 2023 at 14:54 comment added mobileDev14 Thanks for your thoughts on this. I get that looking for another job is extreme. I’ve never been at a company where not showing up to meetings you’ve said you would go to is culturally acceptable.
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