Timeline for Should I point out that I'm a woman when negotiating starting salary?
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Jul 11, 2021 at 5:38 | comment | added | Edwin Buck | @ognockocaten I have no idea, but I find that StackOverflows "put it at the top if it gets any activity" sort of keeps a necro alive for a little while. But there have been many reports of measurement bias in comparing wages across sex. Those that benefit by having a cause often misreport that they aren't comparing within the job categories. Yes, it's a problem that women have less desirable jobs, but the "wage gap" biases toward "raises for women" and that's not really the problem, it's more "equal positions for women" that needs work. | |
Jul 10, 2021 at 22:29 | comment | added | ognockocaten | @Edwin Buck Sure, promotion gap, fine. Now, do you know why this question is getting necro’d after 4 years? Because a couple of people have kicked off notifications on it all of a sudden. Is it linked to from somewhere or something? | |
Jul 10, 2021 at 18:12 | comment | added | Edwin Buck | @ognockocaten You should read your own sources. It is clear that they are aggregating across the sexes and not across the job roles. Their 12% difference is attributed to women not taking management positions. The pay for the positions they do take is roughly equivalent. So it's a mistake to call it a "pay gap" and more accurate to call it a "promotion gap". If you get the job, odds are you will be paid roughly equally. | |
Jun 20, 2016 at 13:50 | comment | added | RedSonja | So the answer is not to settle for less than you think you are worth. I once got a fantastic job offer because I didn't really want the job - so I said if you offer me x I'll take it, otherwise it's not worth the trouble to me. Then of course they offered me x and I had to take it... | |
Jun 20, 2016 at 13:47 | comment | added | RedSonja | Remembering that the HR department is not only looking for the best people, but also trying to save money, so they will offer as little as they think they can get away with. They will also offer less money to foreigners, or any other non-majority group, it's not a judgement of worth, they are doing their job. | |
Jun 17, 2016 at 22:29 | comment | added | Wildcard | @charginghawk, even according to the link you provided: The pay gap is real, is largely due to other factors than discrimination, and may be due in part to discrimination, and a thorough look at the evidence indicates that it is a reasonable assumption—but still an assumption, not proven—to attribute the remainder of the gap to gender discrimination. This is a more precise summary of the link you cite than to call it "settled" that the pay gap is due in part to discrimination. | |
Jun 17, 2016 at 19:27 | comment | added | ognockocaten | @Lan Did you read the article? "Overall, women hired for jobs in technology, sales and marking were offered salaries that were 3% less than what men were offered, but at some companies the gender pay gap was as high as 30%", "Men received higher salary offers for the same job title at the same company 69% of the time", "Take the job of software engineer. Women were offered 7% less on average at major corporations versus being paid 4% less at small start-ups". | |
Jun 17, 2016 at 19:12 | comment | added | Lan | @charginghawk In the tech field the gender pay gap is against men, not women. money.cnn.com/2016/04/12/pf/gender-pay-gap among many explains. | |
Jun 17, 2016 at 14:32 | comment | added | ognockocaten | To the contrary, the pay gap is in fact real, and it is due in part to discrimination. This has been settled: skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5159/… The question is to what degree does discrimination play a part. | |
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