Timeline for How do you tell your boss that being cheap is affecting morale?
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| Jan 25, 2013 at 22:54 | comment | added | user7402 | Update posted in the original question. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 20:20 | comment | added | user7402 | We've decided to meet as a team and put down some talking points and try to approach them as a group again. Will post an update on the results. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 19:12 | comment | added | maple_shaft | @user7402 I know what I would do if I were in your situation, and I think you should too. I have friends that work in the highly competitive video game industry and even there they aren't working close to 14 hour days. I think you are being lied to and manipulated and these founders sound like con artists with delusions of grandeur. Software development jobs are in extremely high demand all over the world, you should never have to put up with being manipulated like that. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 19:05 | comment | added | user7402 | @sysadmin1138 Great idea. I think that coupled with some of your other recommendations and we can try to meet with them again. We're nervous, but we appreciate the ongoing conversation in order to help us understand and handle our situation. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 18:58 | comment | added | sysadmin1138 | @user7402 Oo, even more data to work with. Sounds like a very useful tactic would be to do some market research. Find out what hours policies other companies are doing (flex-time is very common in my experience, who wants to track sick-time?). It also sounds like jaded cynicism (a.k.a. assume the worst motivations) is beginning to set in, so be wary of that if you really want to keep this job. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 18:53 | comment | added | user7402 | @alroc That is what would most likely happen in our case. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 18:52 | comment | added | user7402 | @maple_shaft The feeling that they think we're 'ungrateful' stems from comments like, "I've never heard of another company with such flexible work hours!" or "Employees at [other company] work 14 hour days just because they love what they do and pay for everything themselves!" etc. The last three places I worked had flexible work hours :S | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 18:38 | vote | accept | user7402 | ||
| Jan 24, 2013 at 14:35 | comment | added | alroc | While I agree that refusing the weekend trip/event is probably the proper course of action (I don't see how the founders can "invite" all their employees to take a trip, yet ask them to pay for it out of pocket - what's the incentive?), it could backfire - the founders may say "look, we tried to do something nice for you guys, but you all refused it. So why should we try again?" | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 13:42 | comment | added | maple_shaft | @user7402 Why do you feel that they think you ungrateful? Have they gone right out and said it? Are they treating you and your team with contempt? Or do they just have a very strong personality and now you fear that they look down on you for feeling this way? | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 12:58 | history | edited | sysadmin1138 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 24, 2013 at 12:41 | comment | added | sysadmin1138 | @user7402 Oo, good data. Sounds like a more firm intervention is needed. That's going to be stressful all around, but sounds like the business needs it. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 4:34 | comment | added | user7402 | Would you happen to have any suggestions (lines) that we could use to open the dialogue as a group? Maybe our approach last time was unsuccessful because of how we introduced our thoughts. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 4:31 | comment | added | user7402 | Thank you for such a well reasoned response! I like the idea of pitching with the investors in mind. The founders pay lip service to open communication, but become defensive when approached. We also tried discussing the culture as a group months ago. Though they were surprised, they promised to 'try harder', but nothing came of it and it led to a team member leaving. That said, we want to participate in their meager effort as an act of good will. My fear is that the third approach might just breed hostility since they already think we're ungrateful. | |
| Jan 24, 2013 at 4:01 | comment | added | enderland | Welcome to The Workplace @sysadmin1138 and nice answer! One thing to keep in mind - it seems like the weekend event would not be paid for by the company but rather be out of pocket. | |
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| Jan 24, 2013 at 3:39 | history | answered | sysadmin1138 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |