I am a double major in finance and statistics from UT austin and nobody is even interested in interviewing me for an entry level position in accounting/analysis because I have no work references. My previous jobs have been temp contract jobs where I have been the top performer on my team (unrelated to my field). However my supervisors say for legal reasons they are not allowed to be a work reference. I have several other accomplishments and even picked up coding skills in java/c+/sql and nobody cares about that. Even for a $13/hr entry level position they only care about work references.
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1For clarification, have you any explicit information indicating that the reason you're not being considered is a lack of references? Like comments from a person making the hiring decision? And are you currently in school or have you graduated? – Upper_Case Aug 30 '18 at 17:22
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I have graduated 2 years ago. Yes I have had people specifically tell me an interview would be a waste of time without work references. – Matthew Liu Aug 30 '18 at 17:30
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1Possible duplicate of Is having no references necessarily a bad thing? or How do I get references when still in my first job? or What is the purpose of references? or Reference from previous Job or How to decline to provide references for a job offer? or Who is appropriate to use for a reference? – Dukeling Aug 30 '18 at 17:46
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1So, you're still listing your experience, but all they will do when called is verify you worked there, and not give a statement that showcases your quality of work? Unfortunately, a lot of places only provide that, so that is not uncommon, for you and for others. – thursdaysgeek Aug 30 '18 at 18:14
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1Possible duplicate of Is having no references necessarily a bad thing? – AffableAmbler Aug 31 '18 at 3:36
Why can't you use previous professors as reference? When I got my first job, I used some professors that I had done work for along with other people that I done work for. I also recommend building up a portfolio of your skills. A good idea going forward is to volunteer your skills to a church or a not for profit organization. That way you can build up references.
It's unfortunate that schools/universities/colleges aren't teaching students how to get a job. I've known people just sit there, do their homework, attend classes, then graduate without a job. They continue to not have any jobs even after years. So your case is not uncommon. A good idea to become active in some way. Ask professors for side works, projects, or anything. Do minor jobs for someone who you can reference. Also intern work is a huge plus.
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Are you implying that I copied your post? I am basing my opinion when I was looking for a job before graduating. Luckily, I got a job about a week before graduation and I was very happy. One of the biggest reason for the job was thanks to these two professors I had done work for and I used them as a reference as well as points on my resume. – Dan Aug 30 '18 at 17:54
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FWIW, some of the best references I ever had when first staring out were professors and teachers whom I'd worked well with. – esqew Aug 30 '18 at 18:07
References are just a way of making sure that you can play nice with others in a work setting. Generally, references from work are preferred if not explicitly required, but you can also use your colleagues and if your work direct supervisor is unable to or unwilling. You could also use a former professor or classmate that you worked on a project with.
Not all jobs will require references though. If you keep applying to jobs, you're sure to find some.
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About half of my jobs have been contract positions, and when my supervisors are unable to give me references due to company policy I just ask the team lead or co-workers and that satisfies my requirement. As @jcmack mentioned, they just want to make sure you are a person who they want to work with. – Francine DeGrood Taylor Aug 30 '18 at 19:09
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I had a manager also refused to give me a reference because of company policy. I just asked the manager of another group I worked with for the reference and he was able to without issue. – jcmack Aug 30 '18 at 21:41
So, the problem isn't really that you have no references, it's that 2 years out from graduation you have no work references.
Rightly or wrongly there will be an assumption that you have had trouble getting into being a worker in the business world.
I would look to finding someone (a relative or better a professor or family friend in a position in business) who can give you a personal reference. If asked I'd offer that (but be honest and explain why you have trouble and who the referee is). Make sure it is someone who can vouch for you working (your Mum won't cut it).
Failing that, get involved in volunteering, and see if you can get to where a supervisor could provide you with one, that'll take time, but if you have no other way it's better than nothing.
Also look at intern roles, although you'll have competition from fresh graduates and a similar problem (why are you looking 2 years down).
answered Aug 30 '18 at 17:38
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