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I've been proposed a freelance job, but it's basically a full-time job but with no benefits.

  • 40-hours, M-F
  • Work in their office
  • Work with their equipment
  • Follow their directions; they direct the work, not me
  • Working on multiple projects; whatever they choose

They are asking for an hourly rate, but I am not sure how to propose a fair number or work agreement.

My last gig was very similar to this, but almost worse, and in the end they cut me when the direction I received and implemented wasn't to the liking of their client.

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    Unless there's a reason, cross posting is usually frowned upon. – Sourav Ghosh Mar 13 '19 at 14:17
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because cross-posting on SE is generally discouraged. While I could see it being (potentially) on topic here see how it plays out on Freelancing first – motosubatsu Mar 13 '19 at 14:22
  • Freelancing says it's in Beta, whereas this forum is not. There are already responses on this question. – user70848 Mar 13 '19 at 14:53
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    I for one am interested in the answer. – user10399 Mar 13 '19 at 15:41
  • Is this in the US? Sounds like you could make a case for co-employment – acpilot Mar 13 '19 at 17:05

How to avoid it? Declining their offer is the simplest way.

But if you really would like to work for this company, then negotiate an hourly rate that you would expect to get doing regular freelance work and would make up for the fact that they are providing no benefits. If they don't accept, then simply move on to another opportunity.

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    From a business-perspective I would calculate the hourly rate significantly higher than a regular employee would receive including benefits. The company has the added benefit of flexibility with freelance workes, while you carry the downside of flexibility e.g. you can be cut at any given time. Your hourly rate should reflect a compensation for this insecurity compared to a regular employee. – MrTony Mar 14 '19 at 15:24
  • @MrTony Yes. In a recent question, I asked about using a formula to determine a day rate, and then using the day rate to calculate the hourly rate. In either case, both the day rate and the hourly rate are higher than a straight transfer from a regular employee salary due to the premium added for lack of benefits. workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/131342/… – user70848 Mar 15 '19 at 16:59

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