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The company in question employs some people outside UK, I overheard a conversation with a manager and external staff where manager asked, maybe jokingly, to investigate potential staff's marital status. I know it's illegal to do so in UK, but considering the employer is UK based and the candidate is not, do UK hiring laws apply or would the native's country's hiring laws apply?

Edit: To clarify since there's some confusion:

The company and manager are UK based, the law for hiring UK residents states that is illegal and it is generally unethical, we're on the same page. However, considering that the candidate is not located in UK, and that they would work in a non-UK office, is it technically illegal?

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  • Somehow the company is UK registered, they do work for the UK company, and they are interviewed and managed by the UK manager, they even have UK company's email addresses, however I don't know if there's not a hidden layer local to that area.
    – Atlas
    Oct 21, 2019 at 13:57
  • Why on earth is it illegal and unethical to ask for marital status?
    – Kilisi
    Oct 21, 2019 at 22:44
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    @Kilisi Discrimination, generally in favour of married men (because they stereotypically work hard to support their families) and/or against married women (due to the risk of pregnancy).
    – nick012000
    Oct 22, 2019 at 8:19
  • @nick012000 that's weird, it's just a normal standard question here with married women being preferred in many roles
    – Kilisi
    Oct 22, 2019 at 12:49
  • @Kilisi Does your location have nine months of government mandated paid maternity leave?
    – nick012000
    Oct 22, 2019 at 23:26

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No, they are not allowed to by law as stated in the official gov-docs since they are an UK-based company and the recruitment is done from there (as you stated in your question), so local laws do apply, regardless of the nationality of the applicant/candidate:

Discrimination during recruitment/Discrimination in job adverts

You must not state or imply in a job advert that you’ll discriminate against anyone. This includes saying that you are not able to cater for workers with a disability.

Only use phrases like ‘recent graduate’ or ‘highly experienced’ when these are actual requirements of the job. Otherwise you could discriminate against younger or older people who might not have had the opportunity to get qualifications.

Where you advertise might cause indirect discrimination - for example, advertising only in men’s magazines.

Questions the employer cannot ask when recruiting:

You must not ask candidates about ‘protected characteristics’ or whether they:

  • are married, single or in a civil partnership
  • have children or plan to have children
  • Asking about health or disability

The employer can only ask about health or disability if:

  • there are necessary requirements of the job that cannot be met with reasonable adjustments
  • you’re finding out if someone needs help to take part in a selection test or interview
  • you’re using ‘positive action’ to recruit a disabled person

Link

From comments:

"That confirms the law in UK, but I don't see how it implies that it applies to non-UK applicants and adverts?"

Answer in comments:

"It does because the company operates in the UK and therefore need to obey to UK laws. Lets imagine following scenario: In the UK it's forbidden to steal candy from your local grocery - does that law only applies to UK-residence? No - it applies for everyone stealing candy in the UK.."

In case companies are breaching employment rights in the UK, substantial penalties could be fined by the government (see reference). If that's really the case the company should replace that manager asap as stated in @Gnasher's answer before such fines could be imposed onto them.

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  • That confirms the law in UK, but I don't see how it implies that it applies to non-UK applicants and adverts?
    – Atlas
    Oct 21, 2019 at 10:47
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    It does because the company operates in the UK and therefore need to obey to UK law - easy as that ;)
    – iLuvLogix
    Oct 21, 2019 at 10:48
  • @Atlas Lets imagine following scenario: In the UK it's forbidden to steal candy from your local grocery - does that law only applies to UK-residence? No - it applies for everyone stealing candy in the UK..
    – iLuvLogix
    Oct 21, 2019 at 10:49
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    @Atlas If the recruitment is done from the UK, the laws apply even if they would recruit a Shub-Niggurath
    – iLuvLogix
    Oct 21, 2019 at 11:14
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    If you're being interviewed by someone who is sitting in the UK this question is illegal, regardless of your nationality or whether or not you are in the UK Oct 21, 2019 at 12:21
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It is illegal in the U.K. The reason why it is illegal in the U.K. is because it is unethical and undermining the values of the British society.

If your manager in the U.K. trumpets out that he wants to do things outside the U.K. that are illegal in the U.K., unethical, and against British core values, even jokingly, then the company should consider replacing that manager.

Whether it is legal elsewhere doesn’t matter.

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    "..then the company should consider replacing that manager" Good point there, somebody in a mgmt-position that's disregarding UK's employment laws isn't bearable and could end up costing the company substantial fines in case of lawsuits.. See reference
    – iLuvLogix
    Oct 21, 2019 at 11:49
  • although I agree that it is unethical "whether it is legal" is part of the question of OP
    – user180146
    Oct 21, 2019 at 13:24
  • “Whether it is legal” is off topic on this site.
    – gnasher729
    Oct 21, 2019 at 18:21

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