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I graduate at the end of this year and I've been started working as an intern since last summer at my current company (part-time this winter with class). I will be an intern full-time this summer, and I was wondering when should I ask my manager for a full-time offer (for January 2025) since I don't want to work part-time for my last semester (sept-december). It's a small company in the tech industry.

Should I start the discussion now, should I wait for the middle of the summer internship, or should I ask at the end?

Secondly, if I do wait, should I apply elsewhere too and potentially use that to show I'm valuable?

I read Is it appropriate to ask for a full-time offer after the end of my internship however it's a very old post and at that time, tech was in employee market whereas now the market is very bad and saturated so the advice might defer.

I'm open to any advice and happy to clarify anything!

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My best advise:

Make your intentions clear from the outset.

If you would like to become a full-time employee, let them know that this is what you want.

And then you ask what you can do to secure that position

So for example - they might say 'pass this industry certification and we will consider you', they might give you a project to work on. You want to have an agreed set of actions that you can be responsible for, that will tip the balance in your favor.

That said...

You absolutely should be applying around, as far and as wide as you possibly can. You don't need to let them know you are doing it, but when if you do land an offer and you have other offers in hand - you are in a much better negotiating position than if you have no offers in hand.

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    Thank you so much that's a great answer! How do you recommend mentioning other offers to current employer ? I'm afraid it would appear threatening to them or show a lack of commitment like others answers mentioned.
    – User
    Commented Mar 25 at 10:43
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    @user - You don't, until it is negotiation time. They don't need to know before then. Commented Mar 25 at 18:58
  • @User depends on your relationship with your boss. Good work environment/boss? Your boss cares about what is best for you... and not what is best for them. We had 2 interns who left us instead of taking up a generous job offer. .. And we would hire either of them in a heart beat, because we liked them/they were both really smart. One left us to go somewhere where he could legally hack into 3 letter agencies. The other on an offer of full tuition + a stipend for 2 years governmental work. TLDR: Don't tell your boss if you are working for a boss that I would never work for.
    – Questor
    Commented Apr 3 at 18:06
  • Your current boss can be a great resource to find employment... Good people exist in this industry who care about you... Especially if you are polite, smart, and a hard worker. Everyone in this industry has been (in some form or another) where you are right now. ANd just realized I should make this comment an answer.
    – Questor
    Commented Apr 3 at 18:07
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When should you ask about becoming full time?

Now is a good time.

You are within 9 months of graduating, have completed everything you really need to get a job... It is time to start job searching.

It can take a long time to get a job in the software-industry... I made the mistake of not looking until after I had graduated (long story), and it took me 7 months to land a job.

To be honest, if you have been an intern for this company for a while, you should know if they want you to become full time.

We have that conversation a year before our interns graduate, or at least 1 semester before they graduate. It depends on how long they have been with us. And regardless of our ability/desire to have them continue to work for us... We don't want them to not have a plan after graduation.

Even if your current employer is unable to hire you as a full time employee, Your current boss can be a great resource for finding a job. He has been in the industry a long time (probably) knows a lot of people who respect/trust him. And can give you a leg up into other companies.

So don't hesitate to start that conversation with your boss.


Note this is assuming that you are working for a company/boss that I would work for, and that you have done a good job as an intern. Your personal mileage may vary.

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    Seeing as it is a small company they may very well like him and his work a whole lot but still cannot offer him a job. 8 months ago when he started they could employ him but now they cannot and now the manager is too embarrassed to be real with him. Depending on exactly how small of a company we are talking about.
    – Neil Meyer
    Commented Apr 11 at 18:01
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Secondly, if I do wait, should I apply elsewhere too and potentially use that to show I'm valuable?

That shows your current employer that you have no loyalty to them and are thinking of leaving. Not a good thing if you want your internship to become a permanent job.

You can look around for other employment if you wish, but there's no benefit to telling your current employer.

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Communiate your intent asap. Period. Do not hope for a lot - the market is awful right now, recession coming, depending where you are - well - there are plenty of hiring freezes and firing rounds open. You do not name a location - so I can not really advice based on that, but I know how bad things are, and I live in an area which is growing like mad. Still a bad market.

Search far and wide, but DO NOT COMMUNICATE THAT. This is a BAD idea. Your hand, your cards, showing them is not smart.

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