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Is it possible for a manger to extend a probation (almost indefinitely) without HR being involved?

I believe that my manger has been lying to me about my probationary status for quite some time, to what end, I do not know.

I started in June and handed in resignation last week.

In July it was extended by 1 month due to travel constraints - this letter is on file with HR stating that the probation ended on 1st October.
I also received a copy of this letter.

Around the first, for arguments sake we'll say it was the 2nd, I had a 121(mostly meeting to discuss targets, process and anything else really - mine were mainly me walking on eggshells trying to improve my chances of existing the probation period) with manager, he congratulated me on passing probation. I then told him of an incident that had occurred (in another post).

Since then I've been told by him that my probation is ongoing, it started out with a 2 month extension, then it went to December and then finally the end of January. No real reasons, just 'it is' - I've received no letters, no HR contact, just verbal via manager.

HR have no record of these extensions.

So, is this a thing? Is it allowed, does it stand - did he over extend his rights as a manager? Is this even allowed to happen?

Apologies for the number of questions - hopeful that someone may have an answer or two.

This continued probation was a contributing factor to my eventual resignation.

many thanks!

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  • By 121 do you mean a one on one meeting or does this refer to something else? – Myles Feb 10 '16 at 16:31
  • @Myles - Sorry, yes. It's a monthly meeting between manager and employee, usually to discuss targets and so on – null Feb 10 '16 at 16:32
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    What practical difference does this make, since you're resigning? – Amy Blankenship Feb 10 '16 at 16:34
  • @AmyBlankenship - wouldn't you like to know if it happened to you? I have several friends that work there still, one of which has the same manager. I don't think anyone should be made to think they're on probation and at risk of losing their job when that isn't the case - I do not want my friends to experience that same that I did. – null Feb 10 '16 at 16:36
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    If I wanted to know, I'd have found out long before resigning. – Amy Blankenship Feb 10 '16 at 16:38
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Generally if a probationary period were to be extended you would need to sign off on it to acknowledge that you are aware of a modification to the conditions of your employment. If HR has no record that there was a modification to these conditions and you did not sign off on it, then likely you are in fact finished your probation.

Unfortunately this is not 100% as local law may affect what it truly means to be on probation and what the employers responsibilities are in this respect. Best talk to your local employment council/department of labor.

  • thank you Myles, your time and help is very much appreciated. I have intentions of speaking to employment(guys) but first wanted to ask the stack community in case I was overlooking something. – null Feb 10 '16 at 16:37
  • @meh Can you add a country tag and update us after you talk to the employment guys? – Myles Feb 10 '16 at 16:39
  • absolutely, it'll probably be next week sometime but I'll certainly provide details. – null Feb 10 '16 at 16:40
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    @meh For UK please refer to this safeworkers.co.uk/… – Myles Feb 10 '16 at 16:42

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