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[....] the salary annexure and appointment letter will be issued on your joining. So, basically you're expected to accept an offer and join the work without having any written proof of appointment and confirmed agreement on your payout? Anything which is not a part of written agreement from proper authority, is not part of any agreement, at all. If I ...


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What’s the downside of applying again? If you apply and get declined, the end result is you wouldn’t work there. If you don’t apply, you also would end up not working there.


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I'm wondering should I even bother? Do HRs have some sort of employee blacklist? It's unlikely that you are on a blacklist, but certainly both HR and the hiring manager will know that a year ago you left your 2-month stint. Just be sure to have an excellent answer to the inevitable question of "why did you leave us before?" Make sure your answer is clear,...


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So is this offer letter legally correct or not? It doesn't matter. You should walk away even if it is legal. It's already a big red flag in terms of professionalism to not by default include salary in an offer letter. But to outright refuse when pressed? You're 100% in not-legitimate territory here. There's simply no reason why this would be their policy ...


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You've received several good answers, but I feel there is an important point that hasn't been emphasized enough. Hiring managers are generally looking for individuals with the skills to complete job tasks, but also for individuals who will be happy, productive, and (ideally) long-term team members. That's hard to ask directly about in an interview, so ...


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A job-offer letter is just a contract where you say "I promise to work for you" and the other parties say "in return I promise the following things..." That is all it is. You could have a job offer that says "I promise to come and drink your coffee once a week" and "In return we promise to loudly yell insults" This job offer would be both legal and ...


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Apply. They'll notice your stint on your resume as soon as they glance at your resume anyway. Let them make the decision. At one company I was at, one Vice President was famous for driving away his underlings, and no one blamed his underlings for quitting. In fact in that specific case, surviving more than one week under him was seen as a net positive by ...


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Yes, not only that, but recommended. The advise on pretty much all questions on this site (over and over) is: Don't change what you're doing until you have a signed contract in your hand. I.e. A verbal offer is only worth a strangers-word and is not concrete. Until they have sent that contract to you and it has been signed, everything is still up in the ...


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Simply point out that you cannot consider leaving your existing position until you have the received and reviewed the full details of what they are offering, including any terms or agreements they expect you to sign.


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I believe if the company had a proper hiring procedure, they should have a clear idea about my competencies within the 3 interviews they have conducted face 2 face. I've hired more than 300 people (mostly software engineers of different seniority, UX, researchers, project managers). And there is no hiring procedure good enough to understand how somebody ...


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Am I being too difficult and egoistic or Is reference check a common thing that I need to follow and respect without questing it? Yes, you are. Reference check is common. The references are not really to check on your technical competencies, rather to check on your background and behavioral aspects. Through the interview process They don't know how you ...


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In the future, do not accept an offer until you've seen the written contract (and possibly the employee manual if the contract refers to it in any way). In the meantime, proceed as if you don't have a contract yet, because you don't. Keep on interviewing with other places. Do not stop. Do not slow down. If currently employed, do not quit until you have ...


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You did the right thing as long as you told the interviewing company as soon as you realised the mismatch, and explained there has been a miscommunication. The interviewing company probably weren't angry at you directly (a reasonable person wouldn't), but they almost certainly were unhappy with the agent who sent a mismatched candidate. But that's not your ...


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Am I being too difficult and egoistic or Is reference check a common thing that I need to follow and respect without questing it? In my view, yes. Reference checks can help fill out a sense of how a candidate is as an employee, how they fit in the wider picture of the company rather than just "can they do skilled task x". It's a lot easier for someone to ...


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It is absolutely acceptable to contact a company you previously interviewed at to inquire if the position is still available. However, dont be surprised if it is not. Obviously, it wouldnt hurt to check the company's website to see what positions are open. This is your best bet on seeing if the position is still available.


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If the goal here is to get rehired - do nothing. You would be wasting your time. You weren't employed there long enough and weren't dismissed for an "automatically unfair" reason so you cannot challenge the dismissal. It sucks, I get that - but there's simply no legal basis to challenge this on and you've already been through their internal processes (twice)...


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Agree, looks super fishy. If you have a choice, leave this company in your tracks and don't look back. On the other hand, if you have nothing to lose and have NO other options, go to your first day and see if they going to scam you and for how much. Don't sign anything binding and be prepared to walk away. P.S. Please keep us posted.


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It depends on the nature of the "glitch". You say that the issue was with the nature of the client's business. Was this issue something that should have been obvious to you had you done a bit of research on the company before showing up? Or was it something that you realistically might not have understood prior to the interview? If I'm interviewer for, ...


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I am rejecting this idea NOT because I can't provide the reference, but because it is against what I believe is right. We each have the ability to stand up for what we believe is right and what we believe is important. Am I being too difficult and egoistic or Is reference check a common thing that I need to follow and respect without questing it? ...


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Should I tell recruiter where I have decided to go? No, it's none of their business. Information is valuable, you don't give it out without a clear reason and idea of how it will benefit you. Additionally you would be giving away information that involves your employer to another company.


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I understand it could just be a company process. It may be a company process, it may not be. It can be just that individual trying to build network, which is OK and not uncommon. Do not read too much into it, just let it be. Do recruiters check every candidate's LinkedIn during the hiring process? While I cannot say it's a standard, checking a ...


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Yes it's acceptable to ask (can't do any harm) but don't be surprised if you don't get the job, even if it's available. Definitely ask, they may ask you to resubmit the application and interview, but just be aware that you have a slight black mark against your name as a flake. You've said in the comments: I said to them that I am withdrawing because I ...


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I've seen people quit and rejoin the same organization (even the same division) many times, unless you were fired for any breach of contract, in general no one holds grudges for leaving the company. As you mentioned, last time you were dissatisfied with your boss, not the overall company policy and/or work culture - so I do not see any downside in applying ...


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Simply put your agreed salary in writing to them. Say that you will join then subject to them paying a salary of xxxxxx. That way you are covered. Basic terms would usually be sent in an offer letter but there's nothing to stop you saying your accepting the offer based on certain conditions, it is a two way process and they don't get to call the shots.


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I wouldn't tell them where, but telling them why may help them. If they're honest about wanting to know why so that they can address their deficiencies then that certainly can't do any harm.


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they said due to their policy being to not disclose this They genuinely said that their policy is not to tell a candidate how much they will be paid?! A reasonable answer to that is "I can't tell you how many days a week I'll work for you if you can't tell me how much you're paying". It does not have to be all in the same letter - they can write the ...


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No, it's not unethical until your seat is firmly planted behind the desk at the new job. I've seen 11th hour retractions of offers, you owe the companies nothing until you are actually an employee


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You asked, should I continue interviewing after verbally accepting an offer? And you made a good point when you said, I've been reading up and it seems like a verbal offer isn't really an offer until it's a contract Ultimately, in a black and white world, that's basically true. Until you have a signed contract, you should continue to pursue options. ...


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Yes. It's part of networking. I always keep in touch with contacts. I don't approach with a "hey, is the job still open?" This is too direct and will (at least in my experience) not have the result you're looking for. Instead I call to discuss the industry, ask for recommendations, etc. Show that you've done your research. And how you help them meet ...


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You should get in touch with your point in contact and explain that you think you'd be a better fit for their other role, which is advertised, and you wonder if it's still available. They will let you know whether it's still available or not and if you can actually interview for that position. Make sure you clearly mention the following: Why you prefer the ...


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