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I have two interviews lined up, but I'm concerned that stagnation of the economy could lead to redundancies in any organisation, and as the "new guy" I'd be the first out the door if it came to that. Is this a valid concern, and therefore should I think very carefully before handing in notice given the current situation - or am I being melodramatic?
You'd ...
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My current employer asked if I'd like them to reconsider my current salary
It means your current employer values you significantly – it takes significant time to train new employees and allow them to settle in the team/workplace. Assuming you didn't burn any bridges when you turned them down earlier, the smart thing to do here would be to save your own ...
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Yes this is a valid concern and no you are not being melodramatic. It's surprising to most employees how little capital some businesses actual have. You've worked there for 3 years what's another 3 months at which point we'll know a little more of what effect this has all had.
My advice is to stay put at the moment.
Note: If your company looks like it's ...
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You gave a months notice. That doesn't mean you are out of a job in a months time. It means you go to your manager asap and ask if you can cancel the notice. Obviously the timing is really bad, but the chances are not bad.
If I was your old employer, and slightly hard nosed but not too bad, I might offer to cancel your notice, same salary, if you sign a ...
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They said that they want to push the start date by 2 or 3 months. They didn't give a definite date.
This is untenable, stay with your current employment if possible.
My current employer asked if I'd like them to reconsider my current salary. I said no to this, because the reason for quitting was not so much salary as the nature of my work.
Reconsider ...
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as the "new guy" I'd be the first out the door...Is this a valid
concern
Yes. But that's always a concern, especially if we head into a recession.
I'd be more worried about new travel arrangements, employee onboarding during all this, new social interactions - Infection related concerns, rather than employment ones.
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or am I being melodramatic?
Yes, I think a little bit. It's just another factor to be considered.
Realistically you analyse a companies stability anyway regardless of pandemics or anything else. During any economic problems some companies will actually do very well.
The fact that you're looking at the larger picture is a good sign for your future in ...
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In addition to the other answers, you can just talk to your current employer about extending your notice period, even if you still intend on leaving.
They might be happy to do so, because, especially in these chaotic times, they'll have more time to find a replacement for you. Many people hesitate to switch jobs at the moment, so new employees are harder to ...
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Given all that, was this a selfish and immoral decision?
No, you took a decision which is good for you, nothing immoral about making the decision itself to move out.
Shouldn't I've hurt my boss by not breaking promise and not quitting the job?
Let's take it in two parts:
"breaking promise": Yes, Absolutely you should not have done that.
"quitting": ...
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I would not rely on the person you are replacing. It happens very often in the situations where they simply do not care to put in the time or effort, so if you want to effectively take over then I would drive it as much as possible. Even to the point of speaking with who will be your supervisor and asking what their expectations will be for you in your new ...
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So, I would like to accept this job, but I am wondering what the
minimum time I could work for them and quit would be without being
unethical, without being 'rude', without leaving a bad impression.
Would six months be suitable? Three months?
Rude is in the eye of the beholder. And you have to consult your personal ethics here.
Whenever I hired ...
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Programming isn't like being a gas fitter or pilot, where you need to be certified on a specific task, because you're rarely asked to do the same thing multiple times.
What is important is the ability to pick up a new tool, skim the manual (if there is one), dive in and have a go, troubleshoot and fix your mistakes. You can't get certificates in that, but ...
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As others have pointed out, it would be better not to have given notice until you had a (contractually binding) offer with a start date. You need to mitigate this problem.
Start by informing the new company that if they can't give you a contract now with a specific start date (even if it's not immediate), you will need to reconsider joining them, and you'll ...
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Talk to the boss of the manager you're replacing about the hand off. Ask them how they think it should be handled since they are likely the ones in charge of how it should be handled. If necessary get their response in writing and forward it to the manager you're replacing.
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Given all that, was this a selfish and immoral decision? Shouldn't
I've hurt my boss by not breaking promise and not quitting the job?
I don't see anything immoral here.
I do think it was a mistake to announce a decision, rescind the decision, then change your mind yet again and go back to the original decision. In my opinion, that was completely ...
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Don't get fixed on the title. What you need to look at are responsibilities and recognition (including pay).
You need to build arguments that you're essentially doing the job the previous person did but better. The first justification is that you have been given the duties and the team associated with the responsibilities but you should also provide more ...
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Don't sell yourself short
You have experience and you did stuff. Now you need to define what is this stuff.
Begin listing all your achievements this last years, have someone review it and again don't be too humble. This work will allow you to find out (hopefully) that you're not en entry level engineer but someone competent and experienced that deserve a ...
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No, it doesn't. At a very small company, you could have a title such as 'IT Director', but if you moved to a large company you might be just a 'Software Developer'. Neither of these titles will pay your mortgage - your salary will. Recruiters are more interested in the quality of your resume rather than the titles themselves.
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Do you think that people would trust me if I show them some of the codes that I have made or it would be necessary to do some courses to obtain certification ?
You might be having a lot of certificates, but in the workplace world, showing them to a potential company/academia would not probably land you the job/course directly because it is the due diligence ...
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Have you considered a sales engineer or professional services role? These require people with wide-ranging engineering skills capable of talking to both customers and the company's engineers, and putting together demos and prototypes at short notice.
Typical downsides include sales compensation (good when you hit your quota, bad if you don't), potentially ...
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So much to say here.
Your answers will vary based on the field and location that you're in. It will also depend on how long your previous stays at companies have been.
Firstly, I think you may be making some mistakes in your pretenses here:
I would like to be able to have this company on my resume
The company on your resume means very little if you ...
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Given all that, was this a selfish and immoral decision?
Selfish and immoral, the answer is no. You are working for a company they are exploiting your labour to make money. If the company was going bust do you think the would afford you this ethical conundrum?
Shouldn't I've hurt my boss by not breaking promise and not quitting the job?
This doesn't ...
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Yesterday, I told my boss that I'm not joining the new company, I'm staying with you since you'll increment my salary.
There's nothing immoral about you initially accepting his offer, then changing your mind. However, there's everything immoral about your boss' response:
At this, he got little frustrated (he also said I'll make sure you don't get any job ...
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I'm going against the two existing answers here.
You're into programming and that is all fine and good. However, the person looking at your application is looking for proof that you're not just talking big or overestimate your ability.
You don't have any proof. The application right next to yours has, so yours will land directly in the discard pile, unless ...
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Talk to a local employment lawyer. If you have a signed contract, then it should be valid.
Simply put, employment law varies from place to place, but generally, if you have a signed contract, the terms of that contract are binding on both parties. Regardless of whether or not you've started work with a company, the contract should have become "active" the ...
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Does it matter? Maybe even at the company. In some companies, pay increases and the like depend on title.
And when you switch, how much a title matters depends upon company/industry. I used to work for a companies where titles ment little, so I didn't care. Now, when searching for projects as IT Consultant, I often talk with people that have zero knowledge ...
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"£83,33" is how one might print the Sterling amount eighty three pounds thirty three pennies in a locale in which "," is the decimal separator, so it can certainly exist. This is just like writing €10.33 in the USA or UK, even though many, if not all, countries that use the Euro as their currency use a comma as the decimal separator.
The other use of comma ...
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While an attorney can probably help you out, they are probably going to charge you for a consultation, unless you have access to some sort of free legal service. So, rather than "lawyering up" initially you might try contacting your local unemployment office to find out if your situation would qualify for unemployment benefits. Another source could be the ...
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I am also from India. I think we could withdraw our resignation as far as i know(at least in my previous company). You would need to check your company policies thoroughly.
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