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Your friend is being had, if I was him I'd just refuse, do my normal hours and go home. The company can then decide what they want to do about it. In any case I'd be looking for a new job, so if they contemplate disciplinary action over it, they better hurry. Usually in nominally grey areas (and this just barely qualifies) standing your ground and calling ...


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Most importantly, make it clear that you have a plan for adjusting future workloads so that he hopefully doesn't ever have to do this again. There's a danger here that you seem to have picked up on. Some workplaces celebrate the "hard worker" willing to "do whatever it takes" so much that it becomes a cultural expectation that people will always "do ...


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Can anyone translate this from workplace speak? Basically, your manager wants you to work extra hours without being properly compensated for those extra hours of work. If I were you, I would only do my work during normal working hours and start looking for a new company to work for if you are reprimanded for not working extra hours for free.


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Both statements have been in courts and both have been ruled illegal and unenforceable. Overtime can be included in the "basic salary", but only if you are in management or similar positions where your basic salary is good enough anyway (currently >76.200€ p.a.). In addition, overtime can not be generally included, because basic contract law says you cannot ...


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What your manager says is nonsense. What he apparently wants is "bums on seats". A nice quote from some top manager at Microsoft: "You can make people stay in the office 80 hours a week. You can't make them work more than 40 hours a week". Working more than 40 hours a week decreases productivity, and not productivity per hour, but productivity per week. ...


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A wiser man than me said “You can make people stay in the office for 80 hours a week, but you can’t make them work more than 40 hours a week.” That’s the problem you are running into, and there’s nothing you can do. People come to the office because you pay them. They work because they want to. And you know why these people have no motivation to work.


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If I were one of those employees, I'd turn it down, too. All that overtime is basically the result of poor planning. By signing up to do the overtime, it enables those bad planners to stay around and keep making the same mistake. If nobody shows up for overtime, eventually it puts the planners in the hot-seat. Consider putting the whip to their backs, ...


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You're missing the obvious third option: Stop working on Saturdays It's clear you're not allowed to work on Saturdays so you should stop doing it. If your manager tries to force you anyway you kindly respond with: Of course I would work on Saturday if you need me to, as long as I can officially enter those hours in my time-sheet and receive the proper ...


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You can make an impact programming and learning outside of your paid work. There are many open source projects out there that are looking for talented individuals to help out. Find something that resonates with you - something you believe in. Possibly something that you will learn from (a different language, framework or area of programming than in your ...


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They've admitted that they're lying to you, to every other employee, and to every potential job candidate, and have admitted to you that they intend to continue lying. My advice would be to forego any further conversations regarding this and start looking for a new position somewhere else. I know "Look for another job" is a pat answer, and is ...


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Different companies have different rules and different levels of tolerance on this. Companies who want you on the dot of your start, usually want you to be in, have had your chat with colleagues, made your coffee etc and BE READY to start work at your time (e.g. 9 am) which is why they are pushing you for 8:45. Although you signed in for 9, you probably ...


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I am aware its up to the individual what they do and its really none of my business really what they do with their spare time, So you're fully aware that what you want to do is out of line and you have no business controlling other people's working hours? but my question is if there are any subtle ways i can perhaps convince them to not come in early or ...


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I used to give guys 3 or 4 day weekends when they finished projects early or on time. In the days of scrum, there is a lessened sense of accomplishment in getting big projects done, since scrum seems more of a constant grind. I would think a free 3 or 4 day weekend would really show you appreciate his extra time. It also shows your team that you are ...


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How can I discourage employees from working voluntary overtime? By telling them, in person, at 5 PM, to go home. This sounds simple (and it is), but it goes a long way. Early in my career, my boss told me to go home at 5 PM, and I never forgot it. He told me that there is plenty of work remaining for tomorrow, and that now is not the time to "burn the ...


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This is an implied threat: Work for free, or there will be trouble Your manager is savvy enough to know that she cannot demand that you work without being paid, but has made it clear that she wants you to. Also, by saying that she's not going to explicitly tell you to do so means that if something goes wrong, she can TRUTHFULLY say "I never told ...


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There's a very simple way of conveying that you have an appointment: Hey boss, I often have appointments scheduled for 6 PM. It takes me about an hour to get to them, and so I'd really like to take advantage of our flex time policy to come in 10 minutes early, and leave at around 4:50, such that I make it on time. Could we talk about it? If you don't ...


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If she thinks that she can't get all the work done in those hours, and she feels all the work is important, then she should go to her boss and work out priorities for the work: what work is most important, and what work may not get done with less hours. Hi boss. Since I won't be able to get all my tasks done without overtime, what tasks are less ...


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Reading your question and while completely agreeing with keshlam's answer, I think the right question to ask is, as a manager, "how can you get your boss to prioritise new work rather than imposing an increase in workload without considering the impact on the team?" If you are: Late in a sprint (and potentially on time); and Asked to add something into the ...


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What could be the reason for the company doing this, is it to somehow cut costs? HR are insisting this is a good deal and I should take it. It sort of indirectly helps them cut costs - mainly because it reduces the admin overhead in HR/Payroll. Is this generally a good deal? My worry is overtime expectation may increase in the future. Usually my overtime ...


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This is an odd one, but the answer may be complicated. In the upper peninsula of Michigan there are places that enforce strict environmental rules to protect the community and closed habitat. These places have rules like "no cars" or "mass transit only". These locations have gotten creative with how they compensate employees for their travel time. This is ...


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I think there are already answers covering many aspects, but if you're looking for a good response to this emotional manipulation, you could maybe say something like that: If I am not rested, I cannot work focused, more errors sneak in, and that is irresponsible! So I take responsibility, go home and try to sleep well!


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You need to check what's in your contract - but broadly speaking if this is overtime in the sense of being outside of your contracted hours then yes they can.


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and the "safety margins" taken to ensure arrival on time cause the early arrival. That's clearly a sign of a responsible and reliable babysitter. These are in my experience very valuable and hard to find. While you are legally not required to pay her for the extra time, it would be stupid not to. The extra half hour is probably just a small ...


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The other answers are good but I wanted to add one more point. If he's promoting you to a leadership role then that means that people more junior in the company than yourself will be looking to you for leadership and following your example. If they arrive at 9 themselves then they do not know you have been there since 7, for all they know you got there 5 ...


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If you are hourly, you tell him, "Excuse me, let me clock back in until we are done with this." If he pushes back on that, a good response is "We could get in trouble if we don't track my time correctly." Emphasize the "we" - together we are working to find a good and legal solution. If you are salaried (and in the US), it's a bit fuzzier, because you're ...


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Are they allowed to force me to do overtime at no extra pay? This really depends on your local laws, your employment contract, and your status as an employee, none of which can really be determined here. Your best bet, should you really want an answer for this, is to consult a lawyer. What is more concerning is that your employer appears to have no concern ...


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Numerous studies have shown time and again that money is an extremely poor motivator. Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us is a well sourced book which dives into the topic. The author, Dan Pink, has a really nice animated version of a talk he's given summarizing the findings. While monetary incentives are a poor motivator, instead people are ...


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Every once in a while you'll run into someone like that, for whom work is their life. I've always had passions and hobbies outside of work, and long ago came to understand that I'll never share that attitude. I don't feel guilty about it, but I also understand why that mentality is attractive to management. I learned that the hard way at my first job. Our ...


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I disagree somewhat with the other responses as a first response to directly ask. I would suggest you can get a very good feel based on other questions what the answers are and bring this up in a way they don't realize you are asking it. Ask how they plan projects and create deadline estimates. If they have any system at all, you can naturally followup ...


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