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"today I learned it comes with 24/7/365 on-call to monitor mission critical systems. The first time I fail to fix it within 20 minutes, I will be fired" Then you have really nothing to lose. That's an absolutely ridiculous and outlandish requirement. No sleep, no vacation, no beer after work, no private life? Go back to your supervisor and tell them ...


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What the hell do I do now? I feel like I just got bait and switched and I want to go back to my old position. If that's the case, you should ask for a one-on-one meeting with your manager and express your feelings about going back to your old position. Make sure you first confirm that the flippant remarks you overheard were a real change and not just odd ...


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Should I do anything further (if so how) in terms of bringing this up to management, project manager, etc? They've already paid you in terms of your "expenses" and given you extra time off, so I'd think there's no point other than to vent anger (which is a bad idea). How can I approach booking any future time off given that this could happen again? ...


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This is one of those times when Gordon England's classic question would have been really useful. When they sprang the 24/7/365/"20 minutes"/"no backup personnel" story on you, you could have had a lot of fun by sitting silent for about five seconds, then asking "What will you do if I'm in the hospital?", and then SHUTTING UP. As it stands, I recommend, in ...


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I think there are already answers covering many aspects, but if you're looking for a good response to this emotional manipulation, you could maybe say something like that: If I am not rested, I cannot work focused, more errors sneak in, and that is irresponsible! So I take responsibility, go home and try to sleep well!


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First thing I'll say is, don't be in a rush to quit your job. A lot of people on this stack are inclined to respond to almost any major issue by saying that you should start looking for a new position. It may happen that you wind up forced into that, but you have other options to explore first. As others have noted, you should have a discussion with your ...


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Short version : time to move on. The first time I fail to fix it within 20 minutes, I will be fired. The sort of condition written by a megalomaniac with no technical knowledge at all. Problem solving simply does not work this way. Your second sign you are working for an insane organization and, again, time to start looking for a new job. It can only ...


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"Have to do work outside of the workplace with no pay" This alone should be enough to decide to move on, unless you like working for free. The primary reason that you are likely working is to make money. If you aren't getting paid for work you are doing ( or not getting paid enough ) you should look for a new place to work. The other cons you listed ...


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Second answer that addresses the information you have added to the question since I last answered, as my answer now is very different. I found out today when my boss flippantly mentioned it in a conference call with several other managers. Specifically saying "We don't need to worry about the website, we have X on 24/7 on-call now." Managers often ...


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You have absolutely done the wrong thing. Here's how: You disregarded a direct order from your boss to not do the out of hours work. He might have some things planned like review processes on how/why after hours work is necessary for a number of possible reasons. He might have even been working on trying to get you guys a better deal (time in lieu or ...


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What your boss is doing is called emotional manipulation and as you see in the quick search there is stacks of information about it. If that was my boss I would be asking if the engineers of Fukushima should consider seppuku because that would be a good overly dramatic counter argument to expose the ridiculousness of his claims..


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Now I would like to know how to address the current situation (if I should) with management/PM, and how to tackle it in the future. There is not much to address the current situation. You yourself knew that it wasn't likely that the project would have been completed on the original date. You even booked your trip a few months after the original date ...


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I really don't know how to react to this! As I feel upset as well as have little bit worried about co-worker as well! Don't overthink it, be happy that the work is done. Enjoy the rest of the holidays. Could you please help me how to tackle this co-worker as this is not the first time, he has done this: working over holidays / weekends and take up my ...


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I am wondering how people know when to find another job and when to stick at the job they have. There's nothing wrong with always looking for new opportunities and comparing them to your current job. Browsing LinkedIn job listings, reaching out to recruiters, or submitting applications are all perfectly okay to do when you're satisfied with your current ...


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tl;dr They're either setting you up to be fired, they're malicious, or they're beyond clueless. That's not a company I'd want to work for. While I was okay with the responsibilities outlined when I accepted the promotion last week, today I learned it comes with 24/7/365 on-call to monitor mission critical systems Was this in the job description in the ...


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Should I be worried? Yes. Sorry to make this sound like a bit of a negative response but it seems you walked into a new job without doing some research on the company culture. Some companies are like this and some people don't mind working in places like that, others (such as yourself and myself) absolutely do mind it. In my experience you will not be ...


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Now I have a boss, who just started at the company, and they are trying to use the following paragraph in my contract to insist that I be in the office 9 - 6 Mon - Fri, be on call 24/7, still go into the office out of hours regularly, including weekends, while maintaining my current level of productivity and without additional remuneration: "...


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Given the edit indicating that your concern is a conclusion from a overheard conversation, not a directive you have received, you need clarification. You can ask your manager what out-of-hours web site support they expect. If they want 7/24 support, recommend doing cross-training to create a rotation of people who can handle it. Suggest extra pay as an ...


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Is earning a higher salary than your colleague a valid reason to get assigned more work than him? Forget about what Calvin or anyone else does or how much they are paid. When you are assigned tasks you need to be concerned only with what you are capable of doing. If you are overloaded with work, you need to let your boss know that the work that has been ...


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There are a few conditions which must be met for this to be no problem: This should not affect your professional performance. If it becomes clear that you are tired and unfocused in the morning because you are doing GitHub commits at 3:30am the night before, then it is a problem. You should not use any proprietary knowledge from your work at your employer (...


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While you're reluctant to reschedule at this time that is exactly what you should do. Talk to your boss and your partner and then schedule the trip so that it is only a few weeks or a month later than originally planned. You will be clearing it ahead of time with management, it will be before the estimated time for the Smith delivery, and it will still ...


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I was in a similar situation. I was given work with deadlines where it's impossible to do them in the regular 40h work week. I also saw other people not leaving at 5pm so at first I felt pressure to also keep working not to be "the new one that from day one is not working enough". I even once went at 6pm where he "joked": Where are you going? It's not ...


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Does anyone also feel like they should stay extra hours at work or feel bad if leave on the time and others are still there? When I first started my professional career, I used to feel that way. I was in a carpool, and had to leave in order to get a ride home. Most of my co-workers were still working. Eventually, I learned not to measure myself based on ...


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Contracts cannot change unilaterally, or they are not contracts. This is why they ask for your signature, because they need it. You are perfectly within your bounds to reject the change, or negotiate it in a way that would make it worth to you. Every contract change is a negotiation, and every negotiation can fail. That takes care of can, now for the ...


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It's quite likely that nobody told your new boss that you were working "non standard" hours, especially if it was an informal arrangement with your previous boss. When people take on a new management position, they tend to get briefed about the problems, not the things that are going right, and from your account you weren't creating any problems. Unless ...


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It is fine to not go, and it’s fine to not want to go. It’s also fine to not believe in the Christian god, or any god. In many places, this won’t get you fired — although it’s true that never socializing might hamper your ability to get promoted. But this is not OK: i refuse to celebrate the sky god and i intend to make my reasons for not going to my ...


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As you mentioned and probably understood yourself, the company culture is the problem here. "Critical" incidents are that - critical. They are not supposed to be regular things. Working overtime is already working extra, mandatory unpaid overtime is very unprofessional, unethical and maybe in some jurisdiction, illegal. The series of events you mentioned ...


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In my experience, it has been perfectly OK, encouraged even, to work on other projects in your personal time. You are educating yourself and it doesn't cost your employer anything. I would say that the caveat is that you cant let the work you are being paid for slip; that is when it becomes a problem. The other thing worth mentioning: while a company can't ...


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In other countries, your stories would be a field day for any lawyer specialized in employment law. There are so many red flags, it feels like a school exam for future lawyers. Where I live, while the whole contract would be illegal from the start because 24/7 on call would be illegal from the get go, 20 minutes is not a reasonable reaction time and firing ...


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Let’s rephrase this a bit, your boss gave you a direct order which you then proceeded to totally disregard, and you are wondering if (a) there could be some negative fallout for this and (b) whether you should be the boss. I’d say the answers are yes and no. Whether there is any negative fallout is in the future, so can’t say for sure, but it would not ...


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