Timeline for Addressing Sir or Ma'am to Transgender or Androgynous looking individuals
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| Apr 11, 2023 at 22:57 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 22, 2023 at 3:43 | answer | added | keshlam | timeline score: -4 | |
| Mar 21, 2023 at 8:20 | comment | added | keshlam | In some communities it's becoming common to put preferred pronouns in name badges even when preference is to use the ones matching appearance. That may be enough to guess honorific, though if the preference is a non-traditional one there may not be an established honorific. In which case you dodge, apologies and ask their preference, or guess and apologies profusely if wrong, explaining that you're still learning the new conventions. Or substitute something like "Honorable" (or, at a programming camp, 'Hacker") which is equally silly for everyone... | |
| Mar 18, 2023 at 12:55 | answer | added | gnasher729 | timeline score: -3 | |
| Mar 18, 2023 at 1:51 | answer | added | mxyzplk | timeline score: 9 | |
| S Mar 16, 2023 at 10:02 | history | suggested | Vikki |
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| Dec 24, 2017 at 18:58 | comment | added | Neuromancer | @StianYttervik in the Uk its Your Majesty on the first occasion then ma'am there after - my first company had a royal visit so there was a briefing document | |
| Dec 24, 2017 at 12:40 | comment | added | Stian | Just for the basic fact of it, "Sir" can be used adressing both genders - which leads me to have the opinion it should be used to the "expanded list" of genders - no offense meant but I don't know how many there are and I generally don't care (people are people). If you are adressing royals, you cannot use Sir to a Queen, it should be Mam (like "ham") - but then the title gives it away. A Queen shall per definition be adressed "Mam". Any other official can be adressed with "Sir" unless the title is clearly gendered, then it is "Madam" (or "Ms" at your peril) btw: English speaking countries | |
| Dec 24, 2017 at 6:44 | history | rollback | Bluebird |
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| Dec 24, 2017 at 6:35 | history | edited | Bluebird | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 31, 2017 at 15:53 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/925390164905594880 | ||
| Oct 30, 2017 at 3:08 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Oct 21, 2017 at 23:31 | history | edited | Bluebird | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 21, 2017 at 22:06 | answer | added | Joe Strazzere | timeline score: 15 | |
| Oct 21, 2017 at 19:53 | comment | added | Gabe Sechan | @HLGEM I don't like being sir-ed. Makes me feel old. I also highly dislike all styles of formality. I won't say anything about it (because really, that would be odd) but I prefer not to get it. I also don't like to be called Mr. Sechan. Call me by my name. Mr Sechan was my father the teacher. | |
| Oct 21, 2017 at 1:45 | comment | added | AffableAmbler | I don't think you can assume someone is transgender just because of their appearance. If you really can't tell which they are, probably better to leave out the pronoun. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 23:04 | answer | added | akaioi | timeline score: 1 | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 22:59 | comment | added | Brandin | I found this suggestion to use 'Mx.' but I don't think it's caught on yet. Plus I'm not sure how to pronounce it. "Mix"? dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3066043/… | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 22:33 | comment | added | IDrinkandIKnowThings | @HLGEM - Former Military NCO's often have an aversion to being called sir. Also it is quite common for members of the LGBT community to dislike the superlative quality of the term. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 22:29 | comment | added | IDrinkandIKnowThings | What you should say is going to vary greatly by company and location. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 21:43 | comment | added | Erik | @HLGEM hi, I'm a man who doesn't like being called "sir". (Although I generally don't care enough to actually complain about it) | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 21:10 | comment | added | HLGEM | I have never heard of a man not liking to be called sir, but I have hardly ever met a woman who like to be referred to as ma'am (which indicates advanced age to most women). It really is an outdated term that needs to go away. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 20:56 | comment | added | Bluebird | @sumelic received no specific training or procedure as a volunteer. Absent of an established SOP, default behavior is to rack up the formality. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 20:55 | comment | added | Bluebird | @HLGEM indoctrination from educational and cultural development addressed towards unknown individuals. | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 20:53 | vote | accept | Bluebird | ||
| Oct 20, 2017 at 20:20 | comment | added | HLGEM | Why would you feel the need to ever say hello sir or hello ma'am? | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 20:13 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Oct 20, 2017 at 19:56 | answer | added | TheSoundDefense | timeline score: 77 | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 19:54 | comment | added | Isaiah3015 | Whenever you are the front face on any event, drop the gender in your greeting. Regardless of who you talk to. "Hello. Welcome to Tech Camp. I will be happy to assist you today" | |
| Oct 20, 2017 at 19:48 | history | asked | Bluebird | CC BY-SA 3.0 |