Timeline for What is a job title that conveys the duties of an Agile product team's manager (of people)? [closed]
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S Jan 23, 2018 at 14:35 | history | closed |
Erik Bernhard Barker gnat Draken David K |
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S Jan 23, 2018 at 14:35 | comment | added | David K | Possible duplicate of How do I choose an appropriate job title? | |
Jan 23, 2018 at 13:48 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | @Erik, I have no influence over HR and very little over the POs. I do have influence over the title of the position I am asking about. These are my constraints; I appreciate the need to question them, though. And I think I disagree in part: in Scrum, the Scrum Master's duty is not really to be an organizational liaison or a manager of people. | |
Jan 23, 2018 at 9:29 | comment | added | AakashM | @Erik employees need a line manager so they have someone to hand in their notice to :) | |
Jan 23, 2018 at 5:57 | comment | added | Erik | I'll just keep asking; but why does HR need someone to be "manager-of-people"? Also, your (2) is the PO's job and your (3) is the Scrum Master's. (Within Scrum, anyway). What are they supposed to be doing if this manager is doing their job? | |
Jan 23, 2018 at 0:54 | answer | added | Abigail | timeline score: 3 | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:53 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | @PatrickSzalapski IMO the answers wouldn't really be able to explain why they recommend something, they'd probably be short, and mostly opinions that can't really be backup up with facts or references. If this is specifically about Agile, some version of this question might be on topic on Project Management (but probably more along the lines of asking whether such a person has a place in Agile). | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:22 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | Erik: The role exists for lots of reasons, I'll call out a few: (1) HR needs someone to be the manager-of-people, and we want to have that person dedicated to one product team rather than be an outsider. (2) This person may or may not have expertise to contribute in building the product, but definitely has big responsibility to make sure the product is built well and meets business need (3) Many of our business-side Product Owners are at varying degrees of Agile maturity and aren't interested in serving as organizational liaison, manager of people, facilitator, or team advocate. | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:12 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | Team Leader doesn't seem to fit, as they aren't really serving to build the product on the team. They are more of a manager who might lead than a leader who might manage. | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:12 | comment | added | Erik | Why does the role exist? There must be a business reason to have a pesron in this position, right? The closest thing right now just seems to be "Team Manager", but you already seem to have ruled that out. | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:08 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | I've also removed the Scrum tag to help avoid confusion. If Agile==Scrum to you, that is a huge impediment. | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 22:08 | history | edited | Patrick Szalapski |
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Jan 22, 2018 at 22:07 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | Thanks for the thoughts. I re-checked the Scrum guide, and there is no such title as "team lead" in Scrum. I'm indeed asking for any Agile team, not necessarily for Scrum. (Incidentally, key to a Scrum Master in Scrum is to help remove impediments and coach the team in Scrum and Agile, which this role wouldn't necessarily do as a top priority.) | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 21:49 | review | Close votes | |||
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Jan 22, 2018 at 21:29 | comment | added | Patrick Szalapski | I realize this question is subjective, but it meets the six criteria here: softwareengineering.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/350/… so I believe it is proper for this site. | |
Jan 22, 2018 at 21:28 | history | asked | Patrick Szalapski | CC BY-SA 3.0 |