Timeline for Dealing with a team member who ignores company structure
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| Dec 4, 2018 at 6:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/1069833806406930432 | ||
| Dec 2, 2018 at 3:05 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Dec 1, 2018 at 1:32 | comment | added | ldog | You seem to have misplaced your relative position in the company hierarchy with respect to Joe. He has a direct line to the owner of said company and can get them to approve on pretty much anything. You do not. You might have some ceremonial title on him, but he's got an unsaid seniority that is worth a lot more than your title. Learn to adapt. | |
| Nov 29, 2018 at 14:55 | comment | added | Pieter B | Slack stores the message history on their server. Using an internal messaging service that uses external servers is a big nono in my industry. | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 16:54 | comment | added | David Thornley | @SembeiNorimaki Joe is uninterested in management, and wants to stay in the trenches. Somebody has to manage the team. It's not going to be Joe, because he doesn't want to do it. | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 16:42 | comment | added | Cincinnatus | @Peter you might have answered OP's question | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 16:40 | comment | added | Peter | @SembeiNorimaki Some companies treat managing people and developing software as different skillsets in different professions, rather than a natural career progression. | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 15:40 | answer | added | aw04 | timeline score: -1 | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 15:38 | comment | added | Cincinnatus | We might wonder why a new guy with less than 1 year in the company is supposed to be the boss of an engineer with more than 10 years in the company who has seen it grow from the very beginning. | |
| Nov 26, 2018 at 5:14 | comment | added | solarflare | Why is this a problem for you? | |
| Nov 25, 2018 at 15:52 | answer | added | coteyr | timeline score: 19 | |
| Nov 25, 2018 at 10:19 | answer | added | John Wu | timeline score: 16 | |
| Nov 24, 2018 at 9:23 | answer | added | Sascha | timeline score: 10 | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 17:03 | comment | added | Mark Rotteveel | Why can't you go directly to the owner, like Joe? It may be unconventional (and may draw similar reactions as you have to Joe), but it is not impossible nor weird in a 150 head company. | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 15:44 | answer | added | RemcoGerlich | timeline score: 5 | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 15:42 | answer | added | Peter | timeline score: 40 | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 13:33 | comment | added | user1821961 | "Quite often that's against my and my team's decisions" "tends to ignore the rules, processes and even the company structure" "don't have any personal issues with him or his work performance, it's causing some tensions in the team ("Why do I have to do XYZ when Joe doesn't")" I'm confused. Do you want Joe to fall in line with the processes and stop maverick-ing despite the fact his work performance is apparently fine, or do you want to get the other coworkers to stop being upset that they have to do XYZ he doesn't? Or both? | |
| S Nov 23, 2018 at 8:57 | answer | added | Roman | timeline score: 1 | |
| S Nov 23, 2018 at 8:57 | history | protected | CommunityBot | ||
| Nov 23, 2018 at 8:37 | answer | added | Peter | timeline score: 22 | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 1:19 | comment | added | code_dredd | I'm wondering if, given the situation, you've considered that, maybe, you haven't (yet?) earned enough of Joe's trust (if any) for him to take you more seriously and/or respect you, not for your position, but for showing that you know what you're doing? Just a thought. You can't demand such things; you must earn them. | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 19:33 | comment | added | Akavall | " for instance we settled on using Slack for communication, alerts, etc." to what extend was Joe involved in that decision? | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 18:58 | comment | added | lvella | If the owner likes him, but you can't fit him into the team, can't you expel him from the team and place him as a lone wolf directly under your boss or the owner? | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 17:03 | answer | added | eee | timeline score: 15 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 11:48 | answer | added | user71715 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 10:12 | answer | added | toto | timeline score: 83 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 8:13 | answer | added | Will Appleby | timeline score: 153 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 7:31 | comment | added | Brandin | How did you approach Joe about the problems so far? For example when he said he doesn't need to attend the all-team meeting, what was your response to that? It also sounds like you may be mixing up different things of different importance. For example, skipping all-team meetings and asking people to "please call me because I'd rather not log into the chat system" are very different things. Yes, everyone using the same chat system may be a nice thing to have, but attendance to an all-team meeting should more likely be non-negotiable. | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 7:17 | answer | added | jcmack | timeline score: 58 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 6:22 | history | edited | Fer Dah | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 22, 2018 at 4:55 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Nov 22, 2018 at 4:43 | answer | added | SmallChess | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 4:25 | answer | added | Layman | timeline score: 12 | |
| Nov 22, 2018 at 3:55 | review | First posts | |||
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| Nov 22, 2018 at 3:53 | history | asked | Fer Dah | CC BY-SA 4.0 |