Timeline for Probably terminated or laid off soon; confront or not?
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| Aug 6, 2019 at 13:21 | comment | added | Meg | @Rachey I have experienced it myself-- my actual and 'perceived' performance increased dramatically and almost instantly when I was moved to a manager who I clicked with rather than one where most of our interactions were negative. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 9:50 | comment | added | Rachey | @this_is_not_good It could be worth a shot. Since you already mentioned the division is getting restructured you are pretty much not risking anything - there is a high chance it would happen anyway, but this way you show some initiative and will to improve your work efficiency, which is low because of management problems and a lot of people will understand - we had a couple of situations where I work where a manager switch was all the person needed to be efficient and make both sides happy. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 4:26 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | @Meg makes sense. The reasons I haven't been already looking are (1) golden handcuffs (must stay for another year+ to get 1/3 of my "salary"), and (2) other life events. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 4:08 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | @Rachey I really like the idea of asking to switch to another team/ manager. I've indirectly brought up his abusive/ counterproductive behavior to the manager-above-my-manager as part of our normal feedback cycle process, but nothing as part of a direct in-person conversation with him. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 23:02 | comment | added | mini totent | @this_is_not_good could you update your question with the mismanagement situation as it is relevant? Additionally I want to point out that you can confront your manager without bringing up the spreadsheet. In some situations it can be good to show you are on the same page as management regarding your performance and that you want to improve. Given your situation I would be interviewing elsewhere. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 15:12 | comment | added | Meg | @this_is_not_good It sounds like such a miserable management situation that I would advise start looking for something better -even if you had not seen a spreadsheet at all- but just said that your manager constantly interrupts you, moves goalposts and harangues you about not knowing things you do actually know. You can't win at your current job, work hard enough to not hasten your own demise and put out feelings for something new now! | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 13:59 | comment | added | Nathan Hughes | @this_is_not_good: if your bad rating is due to how you are being jerked around by management, that is an extremely bad sign, there's no convincing the managers you're right and they're wrong. been there. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 11:02 | comment | added | Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen | micromanagement means you need a paper trail for it. Require all directions to be written down (otherwise you cannot confirm you've met the goals) | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 9:13 | comment | added | Rachey | If you want to stir the soup a bit - talk to your manager's manager about the mismanagement but raise the problem technically - tell how the micromanaging is badly affecting your concentration and work time and that when you tried to raise it with your manager - he/she ignored your opinion, and that you are constantly questioned if you know something in an abusive way. If you bring up the issues that you were blamed for by your manager, this might give them a hint that the problem is actually in the management. Could be also a good idea to ask if you could switch to other team/manager. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 1:45 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | @DannyChia great link; very appropriate, except for in my case, there's already been an ongoing conversation about my perceived "slow performance" and "poor understanding" (see above), so getting the chance to address criticisms isn't that helpful for me. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 1:38 | vote | accept | this_is_not_good | ||
| Aug 5, 2019 at 1:37 | comment | added | Summer | @this_is_not_good sounds like you have your answer to part two. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 1:35 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | @bruglesco good point. My "slow performance" is true but due to micromanaging; constantly interrupting me and (unilaterally, overruling my protesting) moving goalposts. My "lack of understanding" (other aspect I was criticized for on the sheet) is due to manager aggressively probing angrily whether I know something expecting that I don't, and me emotionally shutting down and him concluding that I don't. Neither of these issues I can likely address well in the next month; I've put in months of time and effort trying to do so already, to not much avail. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 0:54 | comment | added | Danny | If you do decide to confront your boss, then you may wish to check out Alison Green's post on this matter: askamanager.org/2017/01/… | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 0:48 | comment | added | Summer | @this_is_not_good extra hard? No not worth it. Changing their opinion of you isn't likely to work. Do you think you are the worst performer on your team? Do you think you could do something to improve that? If so, do it. It will help you in the future even if it doesn't have your job here. But give them reasonable effort even if you aren't trying to salvage things. No need to speed the process up. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 0:15 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | Added another question: work hard now to stave off being laid off? I'm guessing you'd say 'no, not worth it.' | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 0:14 | comment | added | this_is_not_good | Good point about them possibly lying if they say they won't terminate me. | |
| Aug 4, 2019 at 23:59 | history | answered | Summer | CC BY-SA 4.0 |