Timeline for Why so little paid holiday in the US [closed]
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| Mar 13, 2020 at 20:25 | vote | accept | Alex Barber | ||
| Mar 13, 2020 at 20:23 | comment | added | Alex Barber | @BigMadAndy Yes, indeed! I certainly agree with you that Europe is not just Germany. In the case of Germany, it's not just the annual paid leave but also the number of bank holidays. My boss told me that in real terms we have something of the order of 200 days / year in which to do work (assuming a normal Monday-Friday 40 hour week). So I know well what you mean when you say "Never did I have so much time off as when living in Germany". | |
| Mar 13, 2020 at 20:09 | comment | added | BigMadAndy | Europe is not just Germany! If you want to ask a question about Germany, do. But don't use it as representative of Europe and don't use Europe as synonym of Germany. I've lived in Germany and other European countries. Never did I have so much time off as when living in Germany. Statistics on that are very easy to find on the internet. | |
| Mar 11, 2020 at 12:34 | comment | added | gnasher729 | In Germany, you pay quite a significant percentage of your salary towards unemployment insurance. So payment for unemployment is not "benefits", it's your insurance paying out. In the UK, both you and your employer pay a total of about 26% of your salary towards "National Insurance". So if they pay for my medical treatments, that's totally earned. I more than paid for it. | |
| Mar 11, 2020 at 6:31 | comment | added | Mawg |
@harper, "not to be reliant on the state for benefits which were not earned" - if you have been working, have you not being paying for "benefits" (which is, any case a rather disingenuous word, designed to make them sound unearned? What's the difference from "I put cash in my rainy day fund & took it out when I needed it", other than letting the gubmint hold your rainy day fund?
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| Mar 11, 2020 at 0:08 | comment | added | DarkCygnus♦ | @AlexBarber FWIW, I currently have 15 PTO days a year, not counting weekends of course, nor sick leaves...That's pretty standard in my country (in fact, IIRC 15 days is the legal minimum). | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 21:39 | comment | added | Chris | @Justice I'm not sure what "personal time" means in this context. Probably the OP should add that in Germany the holidays are always paid. So the legal minimum is 10 paid holidays + 4 weeks of paid vacation for everyone - even if you're fresh out of school. In my state 12 holidays + 30 days vacation are normal. (P.S. holidays might fall on a weekend, so the effective days are variable.) | |
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| Mar 10, 2020 at 20:19 | answer | added | BSMP | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 20:06 | comment | added | dwizum | @AlexBarber I can't speak for others, but I wasn't offended. Just wondering if you've done any research, since it's typical to expect people coming here to ask a question have made an effort to answer it on their own and have failed. I do think it's a legitimate question, but unfortunately it's always hard to ask informed and well formatted questions about a system or culture you're not well versed in. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 20:04 | comment | added | Alex Barber | Hello all, thanks for your comments. Apologies if my post seems rude or insensitive; it wasn't intended. I had previously heard such claims about PTO in the US a few times, though didn't pay much attention, and then the linked question made me wonder why the OP had a mere 10 days/year. I only ask, speaking from experience with the German system where over here it would be unlikely to be given only 10 days a year off. Sorry again if anyone was offended; this was certainly not my intention; my post was perhaps too naive. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:58 | answer | added | dwizum | timeline score: 5 | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:56 | answer | added | user5728491 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:41 | comment | added | dwizum | Hi Alex. Have you done any background work to investigate your question? I'm not sure it's meaningful to take one question and extrapolate to an entire country. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:40 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:23 | comment | added | Tina_Sea | we don't want it, we'd rather be working | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:22 | comment | added | sf02 | This question is company specific. I work in the US and accumulate more than your example of 30 days a year PTO. It all depends on the company you work for. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:21 | comment | added | HorusKol | @Harper-ReinstateMonica Europeans aren't any different to Americans in that regard. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:16 | comment | added | Justice | I cannot speak for all employers, but my current employer grants 2 weeks of vacation time, and one week of personal time, along with 10 paid holidays off. so a total of 25 days off annually. With milestones they add a week. There are people in the organization that have worked here so long they get 6 weeks of vacation and 1 week of personal time along with the holidays off. So a total of 45 days off.. not bad IMO. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:08 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | Americans have very strong sense of self-determination, which includes a strong work ethic, and a desire not to be reliant on the state for benefits which were not earned. I.E. a deeply ingrained understanding that you don't get something for nothing. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:04 | comment | added | guest | The US has a different culture. The country US is much more in favor of employers than employees (compared to Europe). Read a little bit on this site and you will find this attitude also in the US people on this website compared to the European people. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 19:03 | comment | added | DarkCygnus♦ | Aren't you making and undue generalization by assuming US gets less PTO than Europe, after reading a single incident from one user? Or why are you so sure your statement is a fact? | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 18:56 | history | asked | Alex Barber | CC BY-SA 4.0 |