Timeline for CEO talked to me about letting me go. Now he is trying to keep me, but I want out. How should I communicate this?
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Mar 14, 2020 at 18:06 | comment | added | Erik Erskine | Don't worry about your CV if you are fired. CV's don't state reasons for leaving jobs. If anyone asks, just say the company lost a large client and X number of us were let go. No-one will think badly of what is a redundancy rather than a dismissal. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 22:59 | comment | added | Ben Barden | "get another job first" isn't the right answer when "let me have my time off to recover" is an important part of the plan. Likewise, simply quitting (and therefore forgoing unemployment) is not in the OP's best interests. This is going to be true regardless of whether or not OP changes fields. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 21:41 | comment | added | computercarguy | @Bloodgain, sure, absolutely. I'm just saying they shouldn't "change industries" into food service or seasonal hardware store work just because they are temporarily having issues finding a job. Sure, they can work those jobs to make ends meet, but not to expect a new career out of it while maintaining their lifestyle. A deliberate decision needs to be made when changing industries, rather than a rash one. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 21:37 | comment | added | Bloodgain | @computercarguy From the OP's description, their industry has widespread abuse and poor job prospects. Unless they see a lot of improvement in that on the horizon, changing industries is the best possible scenario here. Not only does it get them out of this situation, it positions them for better career opportunities in a viable industry. I'm sure they can leverage some of their education and experience to jump to another path, even if they have to take a small step backward in career level to get there. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 21:32 | comment | added | computercarguy | @Kilisi, yes, a lateral move can have a variety of aspects. It could be a financial, responsibility, working hours, or a number of other factors. To me, going from forestry to IT would be an upwards move, since I'm not an "outdoors" type of person, but I digress. Doing a lot less labor intensive work can also be considered a step up, even at a lower rate. I consider my 2000 mile move a step up, since there's no state tax and more options for work in the new city, along with working in more modern programming languages, even though I took a pay cut. And the weather is considerably better, too. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 16:37 | comment | added | computercarguy | Also, some jobs are so stressful that getting out before finding a new job is worth regaining your health. The best scenario is getting a job before quitting, but that's just not always the best answer. The OP can try staffing agencies or moving to a different location, too. I've used staffing agencies, for better and worse, through most of my career. I also just recently moved 2000 miles for better job opportunities. None of it is easy, and getting a job when you already have one is easier than not, but sometimes you can't take the good advice, since it doesn't apply. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 16:33 | comment | added | computercarguy | @Kilisi, changing industries randomly will likely hurt the OP as much or more than it helps. Correctly "changing industry" usually means going to a similar job for a lateral or upward move, rather than a downward one. I spent 15 years as a computer tech, even when it meant I had the equivalent of 7 years unemployment scattered though it. I wasn't going to flip burgers to "get by", simply because that would have looked as if I wasn't serious about computers. I've since changed industry to be a software developer and more than doubled my hourly pay plus have solid employment, too. | |
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Mar 12, 2020 at 8:39 | comment | added | keont | I agree searching for a new job is the way to go, but I have been doing that for almost two years with no success. My industry is simply too abusive right now, everyone I know has the same issues, and almost no one finds a job to improve their situation. I have not been able to. So in that sense, there is not going to be a new start date anywhere, specially with the current crisis (many people I know are being threatened of being fired). | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 8:15 | comment | added | Patricia Shanahan | The way you inform your boss is by asking for a meeting after you know your new start date, informing him you are resigning, and handing him a resignation letter stating clearly your last day. | |
Mar 12, 2020 at 8:08 | history | answered | Kilisi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |