Timeline for How to deal with half my colleagues overriding development processes under the slightest pressure?
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| Jul 9, 2020 at 12:41 | comment | added | Jared Smith | @ДамянСтанчев everybody has a list of things that they would quit a job over. While there's some obvious overlap, that list is in practice somewhat different for all of us, and so for any undesirable state of affairs there's going to be at least some people who would quit over it. So for pretty much any probably at least one person is going to chime in with it. | |
| Jul 8, 2020 at 15:19 | comment | added | employee-X | @Kevin This situation only exits because the boss has failed to convince the team that staying longer than a year is a good idea. Even if the boss makes a firm demand, he'll probably only push them out the door faster. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 16:21 | comment | added | Kevin | @Flater What do you think of my edit? | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 16:21 | history | edited | Kevin | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 7, 2020 at 16:11 | comment | added | Flater | @Kaddath (and Kevin) There is a reasonable line to be drawn where it's acceptable to bail on a company/work environment, compared to when it's just a toxic attitude to do so at first sight. The answer correctly hits on the fact that there is one manager who's not pulling their weight. The other developers' behavior can be attributed to essentially doing as they are told, which may lead to bad practice but at face value is still "being a good employee". There is no reason to think that if this manager is removed from the equation, that the problem will still continue to the same degree. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 13:44 | comment | added | Kevin | @Flater but it's not one person. it's the entire work environment, from management, to the other coders, to the people in other departments. And it's to the extent that even the other good developers have given up. This is not something that is easily fixed. I agree that it's easy to recommend changing jobs to a random stranger on the internet may get tossed around a little too much, but I really don't see a fix here | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 13:10 | comment | added | Kaddath | @Flater I agree with your last comment but it's the best answer to the OP's question after all: if you really care about code quality, you must realize that most of the time you cannot change alone the whole company you work in, if management doesn't act. It's fighting against windmills. I read it more as "don't let it grow too heavy on you, if it passes the threshold, change" rather than "you must change job" | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 9:20 | comment | added | Flater | @Mast: By that same logic, every IT support ticket should be closed with "get a new [thing that is not working]". Telling someone to leave a job over this is massively glossing over the impact/effort of leaving a job, and a random internet poster really isn't affected by OP having to look for a new job so the advice is given out much more often than the poster would follow it themselves. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 9:18 | comment | added | Flater | Depending on whether the "boss" in this story is the highest level of management or not, I'd hold off on the whole "look for a new job" advice. If you should leave any job where there is one person who doesn't do their job properly, you'd be hard-pressed to ever find employment. Instead, where possible, take up the boss' reluctance to enforce good practice with their boss. Based on your own boss' statements (they agree it should be done, and then don't bother to get it done), you have ample proof that they are not actually performing their duties. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 8:45 | comment | added | Mast | @ДамянСтанчев A lot of questions on this site pose problems that can't be fixed by OP, so that actually makes sense. | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 8:42 | comment | added | Дамян Станчев | Almost every answer on this site ends with "look for another job"... | |
| Jul 7, 2020 at 8:03 | comment | added | Simon Richter | The others are also looking for another job as well, they pretty much told OP. | |
| Jul 6, 2020 at 16:12 | history | answered | Kevin | CC BY-SA 4.0 |