Timeline for How should I explain volunteering for future layoffs in interviews?
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Jul 10, 2020 at 11:09 | comment | added | Aida Paul | @AlexGeorg but that's not Ops story, is it? They are not looking around because they are suspecting layoffs, they know that they are going to happen as a fact. And there is simply no reason to turn the truth into half-truths. | |
Jul 10, 2020 at 10:42 | comment | added | AlexGeorg | @TymoteuszPaul Though let's be honest, the current crisis is the most understandable reason ever to be leaving after only 3 months. Almost all companies that fired people, started with the people having just begun because it is usually entailing less paperwork and duties compared to someone who worked for several years. | |
Jul 10, 2020 at 8:49 | comment | added | Aida Paul | @TasosPapastylianou Exactly. There are very very very few ways to spin "3 months in and already leaving" story in a favorable way for the candidate. Very much anything will be seen as at the very least a strong yellow flag by any interviewer, and often enough just tossed aside as an excuse. Here the truth paints it quite favorably, op is still doing his duties for the employer while jobhunting and is not even working notice period, just working while job hunting. Probably as good as it gets given the circumstances. | |
Jul 10, 2020 at 8:29 | comment | added | Tasos Papastylianou | I think this is one of those rare cases where the whole story is better than the nunyabusiness one. Otherwise the first thing I'd think as an interviewer would be "So what's to stop this candidate from hopping on from our company 3 months down the line if similar 'rumours' start (or even if they don't)?" | |
Jul 10, 2020 at 1:39 | comment | added | coagmano | Be aware that telling employers this can put you in a bad negotiating position. Make sure to get a couple of offers so you can negotiate effectively | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 20:46 | comment | added | Captain Man | @whyIamleaving is there some reason you think you need to (or want to) specify that you volunteered? E.g., do you think being laid off makes you look bad, or maybe do you think saying you volunteered makes you look better? I ask because (to me at least) it seems simple to just say "I was laid off" or "I will be laid off on XXX date" before and to leave it at that. | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 19:38 | comment | added | Davor | @Barmar - yes, it absolutely is. Rumors about layoffs are not confidential information, and employees make decisions based on them all the time. | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 17:16 | comment | added | Barmar | And the answer refers to it as "rumors of impending layoffs." | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 17:14 | comment | added | Barmar | @MadPhysicist The important thing is that it's internal, not public knowledge. You shouldn't divulge company private information to outsiders. | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 17:12 | comment | added | Mad Physicist | @Barmar. It's not a rumor if it's been confirmed by management | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 16:16 | comment | added | Barmar | Is it really appropriate to divulge internal rumors to people outside the company? | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 15:08 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | @WhyIamleaving You don't need to say anything about "volunteering", Stephan's line is more than enough. That said, If also emphasize why you want to work at the new company, not just why you're leaving the old one. | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 8:14 | history | edited | Stephan Branczyk | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 9, 2020 at 7:52 | comment | added | whyIamleaving | By volunteered, I basically mean that I will leave first and intend to force the choice. I have years of salary saved and the others dont. | |
Jul 9, 2020 at 7:28 | history | answered | Stephan Branczyk | CC BY-SA 4.0 |