Timeline for How to avoid accusations of “overwork” when employees who work extra hours are promoted faster?
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| Apr 28, 2021 at 13:36 | comment | added | Kilisi | @JoelEtherton a person is a person, a worker is a company asset, but suit yourself, have a good one | |
| Apr 28, 2021 at 13:18 | comment | added | Joel Etherton | Yes there is a difference between people and workers. Your comment indicating workers who don't work extra work hours being mediocre is nonsense. Any difference between people and workers in the context of your answer is pedantic at best. | |
| Apr 28, 2021 at 10:34 | comment | added | Kilisi | @JoelEtherton I didn't say they were mediocre people, I said mediocre workers..... big difference. | |
| Apr 27, 2021 at 14:30 | comment | added | Joel Etherton | OP's question addresses the culture present in their company because of potentially rewarding only certain factors in promotions. Just because there is no problem with "burnout" does not mean there is not a problem. Your assertion that nothing is broken is falacious. People who don't work extra hours "happily" should not be labeled as "mediocre". If people are being bypassed for promotion because of a perception that they don't work as hard as peers who consistently work extra hours, that's absolutely going to create a negative impact on a company's culture, and that is definitely "broken". | |
| Apr 27, 2021 at 14:22 | comment | added | Joel Etherton | @MatthewGaiser: It is better than comparable organizations in the industry. It's a misnomer to label it "very good". | |
| Apr 18, 2021 at 19:28 | comment | added | Matthew Gaiser | Also, 70% men in engineering is very good compared the industry. At least in the USA, only 10-20% of software engineers are women. | |
| Apr 18, 2021 at 9:07 | comment | added | Kilisi | @mattfreake I'm a family man, and life isn't fair. Doesn't mean I want to drag down others though. Priorities change, or should imo, really I want to be an astronaut, but..... kids ;) | |
| Apr 18, 2021 at 9:02 | comment | added | matt freake | I suspect this answer inadvertently captures the problem; people who do overtime = " hardworking ambitious", people who work 9-5 because of chlldcare commitments = "mediocre". I don't think the 9-5ers will ever be convinced of the fairness in such a setup. | |
| Apr 17, 2021 at 14:01 | comment | added | Hilmar | Good answer: I would add "have HR take a look at the current practices to verify that it's not discriminatory (in the legal sense) in any way form or shape". | |
| Apr 17, 2021 at 10:39 | comment | added | Kilisi | @TomTom fair enough | |
| Apr 17, 2021 at 10:39 | comment | added | TomTom | Preferred office workers does not mean the people in IT putting in long hours because they are autistically fascinated with what they do. | |
| Apr 17, 2021 at 10:23 | comment | added | TomTom | It actually goes into a little more. Men are generally more willing to forego a balanced lifestyle than women. Ok, not like that - MORE men (as percentage) are willing to do so. So, reward hard work (and thus higher excellence generally coming with experience) and women fall behind. You can see that as women being disadvantaged - you can also see that as men having a more autistic tendency that just pushed them higher in those fields. | |
| Apr 17, 2021 at 1:32 | history | answered | Kilisi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |