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Apr 17, 2021 at 15:05 comment added DrMrstheMonarch Were a clear plan in place, clearly showing anyone could get 4 promotions in 4 years if they did these things, then I wouldn't have much of an argument beyond, I haven't done those things yet.
Apr 17, 2021 at 15:04 comment added DrMrstheMonarch I believe the effect of "the grass is greener on the other side" comes somewhat into play here...As far as I understood the OP, these people do progress albeit very slowly....according to the anecdotal evidence, a single junior progressed in 4 years what another would do in 12....if I was working for 8 years, and witnessed a newbie coming in and overcoming me solely because they apparently just worked more in their free time, I may come to the conclusion I'm being unfairly treated...as it for me would seem strange my promotions come so infrequently..
Apr 17, 2021 at 14:47 comment added Steve @morbo, I'm not suggesting the OP has any deeply negative view about the 9-5ers. But by what reasoning do the 9-5ers think things are unfair as they are? If they are merely progressing slower by not working and developing in their leisure time, but do still ultimately progress, then that does not seem unfair, unless their salaries in the meantime are so absurdly low as to be effectively unsustainable (which would obviously undercut the OP's assertion that there is no overt pressure to do the out-of-hours work to progress).
Apr 17, 2021 at 9:44 comment added DrMrstheMonarch I don‘t read from the OP that they believe the 9-5ers are worse human beings and seems to actually appreciate their work culture. It seems like a healthy work to life ratio is something that matters to the OP...they simply don‘t know how to promote people to higher technical positions to people who can‘t, won‘t or don‘t invest personal time to improving their own technical abilities. Where in this case the easiest Solution would be to offer training to said individuals and develop clear ‚paths‘ to promotions to anyone who cares to want one, it is then in the ball park of the employee to act.
Apr 17, 2021 at 8:51 history answered Steve CC BY-SA 4.0