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Aug 22, 2021 at 0:17 comment added Stephan Branczyk @PeteW, A lengthier explanation, justifying your request, may still work, but it's much less likely to work. It's just too easy for them to say "no" to it, or to imply that you're holding up the process, or to say that the decision maker is on vacation, or to lie to you and say that they'll have the new contract ready on your first day, etc. Besides, this request doesn't need an explanation. They know damn well what they were trying to do with this clause. Do not explain and do not justify yourself. If you're not assertive with your request, they're going to assume you're going to fold.
Aug 21, 2021 at 18:42 comment added Pete W Thanks for the reply. I was less concerned with losing the job offer for daring to ask (which would be a win-win outcome, given what it would indicate about the employer's attitudes). I was asking more out of curiosity about this tactic vs a more lengthy, but polite, written explanation, justifying the request.
Aug 21, 2021 at 1:27 comment added Stephan Branczyk @PeteW, Can you lose a job offer if you push back? Sure, I didn't mean to imply that this wasn't a possibility. And I know at least one person who had his job offer rescinded because he questioned the non-compete. In my case however, overly broad non-competes are not usually a problem for me because I am in California. And the only contracts I've personally modified were not strictly employment related. In either case, it's all part of the negotiation. If you see too many red flags with a potential employer, you have to be willing to walk away. Not all job offers are necessarily good offers.
Aug 21, 2021 at 0:07 comment added Pete W Have you ever had pushback on the just-change-it-and-initial-it tactic?
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