Timeline for How to motivate staff to attend a paid certification course in their off hours?
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| Mar 24, 2022 at 16:24 | comment | added | WoJ | @Blueriver ah, ok - thanks for the clarification. Because the pay cut would also be illegal in the "first world" (well maybe outside the US, I am not sure there) | |
| Mar 24, 2022 at 16:18 | comment | added | GuilleOjeda | @WoJ not at all, I'm specifically talking about direct employment in Argentina. In software a lot of people in Argentina are employed as contractors, but even then, if the contract says "X money per month" then not paying that amount is a contract breach. IDK about other third world countries, but just wanted to point out that "third world = a lot of stuff is legal" is generally an incorrect assumption. | |
| Mar 24, 2022 at 14:45 | comment | added | WoJ | @Blueriver: I cannot tell if you are joking with the "third world countries" or not :) | |
| Mar 23, 2022 at 16:24 | comment | added | GuilleOjeda | In case OP wants to go this route (I hope not), they should note that in some third world countries a pay cut is illegal. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 14:02 | comment | added | DKNguyen | @tim Yes, in essence you paid for the course yourself but the the managers thought about it as the company was already paying for the course and you "showed your commitment" in light of their generosity. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 9:50 | comment | added | jo1storm | @tim That's how I understood it. "The only difference that it would be during work hours and the company would pay for the course but not the hours spent. " | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 9:21 | comment | added | tim | @jo1storm Oh, so "work hours" would mean "unpaid work hours", ie you'd take a pay cut? Yeah, I can see how that wouldn't be attractive. I wouldn't consider it work hours though (for me, it's not work if I don't get paid; "unpaid work hours" would be a bit of an oxymoron). | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 8:30 | comment | added | jo1storm | @tim Simple explanation. Let's say a course will take 40 hours. That's one work week (5*8 hours). Lets say for the ease of calculation that my monthly salary is 1000$. That's 250$ I won't see that month. If I can get that certification for cheaper than that (120$ course for example), I am operating at a loss. If I get certified, I won't get a raise, I won't get anything for myself but become a better asset to the company. The only thing I might get from this certification is if I start looking for a different job and it looks better on my CV. That's how some people think. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 7:30 | comment | added | tim | @DKNguyen It might be a cultural thing, but I don't understand how this was "during work hours" but still the company would not pay for "the hours spent". Aren't work hours paid ours? And if so, I'm with your managers. I understand not everyone taking them up on the offer, but nobody? That's difficult to understand. | |
| Mar 22, 2022 at 1:17 | comment | added | DKNguyen | My previous employer had a similar plan. The only difference that it would be during work hours and the company would pay for the course but not the hours spent. So more convenient than the OP's case. No one used it. All the employees knew why no one was using it. I later heard that the managers who came up with the plan had no idea why no one was using it. Their reasoning was the exact same as the OP's: "We're paying for the course so why isn't anyone taking advantage of it?" Sometimes, you're too enthralled with your own plan that you don't see the problem others have with it. | |
| Mar 21, 2022 at 19:51 | history | answered | Xavier J | CC BY-SA 4.0 |