Timeline for Being asked to change my last name (in HR system) to work with IT systems
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| Apr 6, 2022 at 12:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/1511675093302321161 | ||
| Apr 6, 2022 at 4:36 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | So I can definitely appreciate the importance of a key grammatical element of a name, but its worth remembering that, if a company has an ancient decrepit software base that has flaws like this, it can be quite expensive to fix them. This is especially true when the original developers are long gone. Stuff that seems trivial, like permitting a character, can take thousands of dollars to fix. If you escalate, and look at their responses, you should find a rung on the ladder where someone's response strongly suggests the dollar cost for the fix. That's where the real conversation starts. | |
| Apr 5, 2022 at 23:03 | history | edited | user1751825 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Changed tone to be less confrontational
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| Apr 5, 2022 at 11:23 | comment | added | Phil | @user1751825 Hold your horses, there. I am not the one getting personal there. I only told you that I can relate to misspelling problems being a migrant myself. What culture I am from etc is not relevant in that matter and I don't want to elaborate further on that. I can assure you, I have experienced my share of misspellings and mispronunciations, but I don't want to participate in oppression olympics and identity politics. If this bothers you, go ahead and open a ticket for the IT team of your company, just stop taking these kinds of things personally and leave the moral hammer at home. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 21:34 | comment | added | Kilisi | @user1751825 my name and most people here are misspelled daily in most computer programs. They're also misspelt in drivers licences and birth certs until recently when licences allowed the correct spelling. No one cares, it's just an alternative spelling minus the diacritics. Unsure why you're so upset over it. In my sysadmin duties if someone requested an apostrophe I'd just ask them if they have any work to do. I'm not about to change company conventions or anything else for something trivial without formal instruction. They would need to escalate first I don't do random requests. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 21:27 | comment | added | user1751825 | @Phil With the apostrophe removed, the name literally makes no sense. I don't expect you to understand this though, because you obviously have a different cultural background. It's just quite arrogant to tell someone else, who's culture you clearly don't understand, that some part of their name is unnesscessary and can be removed. It has significance to me, and since it's my name, that's what ultimately matters. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 20:54 | comment | added | user1751825 | @Kilisi Would you be equally happy for them to insist on misspelling your name? | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 20:52 | comment | added | user1751825 | @Phil When I've worked as a sysadmin I have always done my best to represent a person's name in whatever way the person prefers. I think it's disrespectful to do otherwise. I would not presume to tell you how your name should be spelt or punctuated. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 19:55 | history | edited | BSMP | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Grammar changes, changed heading to bold text with a horizontal rule (headings in weird places can cause accessibility issues, also it was very big).
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| Apr 4, 2022 at 10:34 | comment | added | Phil | I saw this question in the trending questions section on SO and the first thing that came to my mind when I realized it is not about legally changing the name but to write it differently in some internal system, was "first world problems". a big part of western workforce (including myself) comes from countries that don't even have latin letters and naturally foreign names can often not be translated properly, even on legal documents. Complaining about apostrophes in an internal HR system sets the bar for being offended very low. Trust me, you don't want to be a "Karen" in a job team. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 10:07 | comment | added | WoJ | If the change is to b ein the HR system, make sure you will not have problems after you leave that company and retire (because the papers they will give you, or the data they send to the government do not match your actual name) | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 8:06 | comment | added | mcalex | So HR System data can be changed? Simples, change your name in the HR System, wait for the correct email account to be created, confirm you have access to all the required system apps, and then change your name back in the HR System? | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 7:46 | comment | added | Bohemian | The 1933 Mayor of New York was John P. O'Brien. Apostrophes in surnames predate computers and were known to Americans. | |
| Apr 4, 2022 at 3:14 | comment | added | Vladimir Reshetnikov | There're several similar-looking but distinct Unicode characters that can represent an apostrophe. There is a possibility that their system doesn't like the one that was entered as part of your name: ' APOSTROPHE (U+0027), FULLWIDTH APOSTROPHE (U+FF07), ‘ LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (U+2018), ’ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (U+2019), ‛ SINGLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK (U+201B), ` GRAVE ACCENT (U+0060), ˋ MODIFIER LETTER GRAVE ACCENT (U+02CB), ´ ACUTE ACCENT (U+00B4), ˊ MODIFIER LETTER ACUTE ACCENT (U+02CA), ′ PRIME (U+2032), ʹ MODIFIER LETTER PRIME (U+02B9), ‵ REVERSED PRIME (U+2035), etc. | |
| Apr 3, 2022 at 14:21 | answer | added | Polygorial | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 3, 2022 at 8:27 | comment | added | Criggie | Not a dupe, but relevant. stackoverflow.com/questions/8527180/… | |
| Apr 2, 2022 at 17:22 | answer | added | Simon B | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 2, 2022 at 14:44 | comment | added | Lyrl | You have found multiple people in your company directory with apostrophes in their names. Are they located in a place that uses the same timesheet system? Is it possible to reach out to one of them to understand how their accounts were set up? | |
| Apr 2, 2022 at 7:29 | history | protected | Kilisi | ||
| S Apr 2, 2022 at 7:28 | history | mod moved comments to chat | |||
| S Apr 2, 2022 at 7:28 | comment | added | Kilisi | Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 23:22 | answer | added | Dan Romik | timeline score: 16 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 23:11 | answer | added | user985366 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 21:16 | history | edited | user1751825 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added clarrification that they're not wanting me to change my official legal name
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| Apr 1, 2022 at 20:01 | answer | added | CCTO | timeline score: 11 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 19:32 | answer | added | Xavier J | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 17:25 | answer | added | mckenzm | timeline score: 5 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 15:22 | answer | added | Sinc | timeline score: 26 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 13:53 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Apr 1, 2022 at 13:23 | answer | added | joeqwerty | timeline score: 2 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 12:07 | answer | added | Stephan Branczyk | timeline score: 42 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 11:51 | answer | added | sf02 | timeline score: 5 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 8:48 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Apr 1, 2022 at 7:20 | answer | added | nvoigt♦ | timeline score: 94 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 6:28 | answer | added | Kilisi | timeline score: -7 | |
| Apr 1, 2022 at 5:59 | history | edited | user1751825 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 1, 2022 at 5:50 | history | asked | user1751825 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |