Timeline for How to clear the air with our manager/executive regarding an uncooperative co-worker?
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| Mar 31 at 9:19 | comment | added | Stian | I suggest using Nancy as token name, the last time that was done was surprisingly entertaining. | |
| Mar 15 at 5:09 | answer | added | keshlam | timeline score: 5 | |
| Mar 14 at 13:04 | answer | added | Kate Gregory | timeline score: 7 | |
| Mar 14 at 13:00 | answer | added | matt freake | timeline score: 3 | |
| Mar 14 at 2:57 | history | edited | Zipper | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Clarify that the problem is mainly the cooperation, not poor performace. Incorporate answers to the questions from comments.
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| Mar 14 at 2:25 | comment | added | Zipper | @Vector Yes, that is a nice summary. I'll expand the question text to answer your remarks. | |
| Mar 13 at 22:11 | comment | added | Stephan Branczyk | @infinitezero, I agree completely. Not only that remark is petty, but I can pretty much guarantee you that even if that particular issue gets resolved, Oscar will still remain pretty useless as an employee. | |
| Mar 13 at 18:28 | comment | converted from answer | Vector | (This is not really an answer but too long for a comment) There are really 3 questions here: 1. How to broach the topic with your boss at all? 2. What to do if the boss takes the problem seriously and acts on it? 3. What to do if the boss says 'Don't worry about it, I've got this.'? 2 and 3 aren't really relevant to you at this point. Meanwhile, deal with question 1 and take it from there. Re #1: How exactly to handle the situation with your boss requires more detailed knowledge of the situation in your workplace: Is your boss generally open to criticism and discussion? Does he interact well w | |
| Mar 13 at 18:06 | history | edited | Vector | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 13 at 18:00 | history | edited | Vector | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 13 at 17:48 | history | edited | Vector | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 13 at 14:37 | answer | added | infinitezero | timeline score: 4 | |
| Mar 13 at 14:24 | comment | added | infinitezero | I suggest to remove the 5 mins early or late part. Outside of work hours is outside of work hours. I doubt that this significantly contributes. | |
| Mar 13 at 6:01 | comment | added | TheDemonLord | @PlayerOne - If that's the case - there is literally no question here - you tell your boss, end of. What OP wants as an outcome, whilst not guaranteed, would change how that conversation would be approached. | |
| Mar 13 at 0:06 | comment | added | Player One | @TheDemonLord A question "How can I make my boss do a specific thing that I decide" would be answered "You can't". The expectations the OP has seem perfectly reasonable to me. They want their boss to act to address the situation, and (correctly imo) recognise that it's their boss's job to determine what the appropriate action would be. | |
| Mar 12 at 23:30 | comment | added | TheDemonLord | @PlayerOne - I disagree - that is how the Boss reacts - it's not an outcome - 'eventually acts upon it' - doing what? PIP? Fire? Reshuffle? Demote? Promote? Shift? Reassign? | |
| Mar 12 at 22:59 | comment | added | Player One | @TheDemonLord I'm not talking about the title of the question. About midway down there is a bold heading Question, with two clear goals: "if the boss isn't aware of the difficulties: that he takes it seriously ... and eventually acts upon it" and "if the boss has known all along: that he discloses this fact to us..." | |
| Mar 12 at 22:55 | comment | added | TheDemonLord | @PlayerOne - If you just want to vent to your boss - AKA Clear the Air - then just tell your boss - but reading the question, it's clear that the OP wants an outcome of sorts and so wants to approach it in such a manner to achieve that. However, without more detail about what that desired outcome is, we can't help. | |
| Mar 12 at 22:54 | comment | added | TheDemonLord | @Zipper - So, I understand your point - but the problem is: How you approach this problem depends on what you want to happy and 'to just be happy again' isn't a good goal/outcome. If you want them to be fired (and there's nothing wrong with that) then the conversation is about how they aren't doing their job and the time/cost of having to retro-fix their work. If you want them to improve - then you approach by focusing on how to redirect behaviors into a productive avenue | |
| Mar 12 at 21:57 | comment | added | Zipper | @mattfreake What might be missing is the mention of my lack of social competence/experience. My gut tells me, there needs to be some finesse about it and I should not just bluntly unload without any qualms. Therefore I'm asking, before I stonewall my own cause. | |
| Mar 12 at 21:32 | comment | added | Zipper | @TheDemonLord Any outcome it too far down the line. Right now I can focus only on the consequences and not on the measures. There are too many unknowns in the equation to be talking about specific means. The answer to your question is: "To create an environment in which we can do our work again without being borderline sabotaged/demoralized." There are multiple ways how to achieve this and I'm fine with either one, really. But that's not the point of this Question. I want to get to ball rolling first - get the discussion started on the right foot and without being brushed off. | |
| Mar 12 at 21:23 | comment | added | matt freake | Maybe I'm missing something but isn't the answer "Just ask"? Explain the issues you had, use concrete examples identifying the outcomes he's caused (either problems or where the rest of the team had to cover) and ask what he thinks you should do. Focus on the problems and not the personalities | |
| Mar 12 at 20:51 | comment | added | Player One | It looks to me as if the ideal outcomes are described pretty clearly under the heading "Question" | |
| Mar 12 at 19:58 | comment | added | TheDemonLord | Before we answer - I have a key Question: what is your ideal outcome? The Boss fires Oscar? The Boss puts Oscar on a PIP to stop being difficult? The Boss moves Oscar to isolated work loads? We need this answered. | |
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| S Mar 12 at 18:22 | review | First questions | |||
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| S Mar 12 at 18:22 | history | asked | Zipper | CC BY-SA 4.0 |