Timeline for How common is overtime in programming field?
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Mar 26, 2015 at 0:15 | comment | added | Andy | @Kik productivity, especially for software devs, nose dives after about 7.5 hours. You're probably hurting more than helping by working longer as you will make more mistakes going beyond a standard workday. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 18:36 | history | edited | Giacomo1968 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 25, 2015 at 17:32 | comment | added | Lawrence Aiello | @Jorge social skills are meant to be worked on outside of the office, not in it. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 17:25 | comment | added | JorgeeFG | @LawrenceAiello, maybe thats good for productiveness, but maybe you lack social skills that a workplace with people that is allowed to chat gives you. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 16:23 | comment | added | Dunk | @Lawton-My point still stands. Working more hours doesn't equate to better performance, better results, better pay, more promotions and certainly not more productivity. It also doesn't mean that you are "working harder". Results matter most. If I get 2, 3 or 4 times the work done in 40 hours as someone else working 50 then that matters more than my also working 50 hours. Politics has its influence also but all politics and no skills only takes a person so far before someone figures it out. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 16:19 | comment | added | Lawrence Aiello | Again, it depends on where you work. I am in a satellite office where there are no paper pushers (they are all in HQ). So results is all anyone cares about. We get more done in 8 hours than most engineering teams who work 10-12 hour days because we don't take lunches or talk about politics. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 15:53 | comment | added | Lawtonfogle | @Dunk The one who gets paid more is the one who is better at office politics and taking credit (rightfully or wrongly). It is also the one who negotiates better. Rarely are workplaces metrocricies. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 15:32 | comment | added | Kik | Yea, check yourself buddy, we get paid the same amount of money. - Its more like, you better thank the person working hard for keeping the company afloat while you waltz out at 5 pm. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 15:26 | comment | added | Dunk | @Juha-Not much real world work experience under your belt, is there? Nobody cares how hard you work. What people care about is results. PERIOD. I have co-workers that consistently put in 50 hours a week. I seldom work more than 40. Who do you think gets paid more, gets better reviews and gets paid overtime if the company wants a prolonged period of overtime? Hint:It isn't the 50 hour guys. What usually happens is your hard effort rewards your manager by getting them a promotion. Then your new manager doesn't know nor care that you are burned out because of 6 months of 60 hour weeks. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 13:12 | comment | added | Lawrence Aiello | @JunaUntinen Working longer does not mean working harder. Work smart. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 12:10 | comment | added | Tim | @algiogia I would expand banks to any financial services company - especially investments, tax processing, and anything involving money because those tend to be 24x7...in a good company, you're well compensated for 24x7 support, though I don't know many people who spend an entire career in such an environment... | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 12:05 | comment | added | Lilienthal♦ | @JuhaUntinen I doubt whether many companies that allow or require absurd amounts of overtime really take a fair meritocratic approach when it comes to promotions. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 11:39 | comment | added | enderland | A good way to think of this is what that raise is worth. If you work 10 extra hours a week and get a $5000 raise instead of a $2000 raise, you've basically worked 10 more hours each week for a grand total of $6/hr, assuming you work the entire next year and only work a normal week. If you continue working extra hours that $/hr goes down even further. Thinking like this can really influence how much optional overtime you work in order to "get that raise." | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 11:01 | comment | added | algiogia | I would also avoid banks. For them it is really important that the system works 24/7 and could have more "emergencies". | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 11:00 | comment | added | algiogia | @JuhaUntinen "mules" never get promoted. They produce more if they stay where they are. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 10:55 | comment | added | dyesdyes | Also, working longer doesn't always imply being more productive. | |
Mar 25, 2015 at 9:47 | comment | added | Juha Untinen |
Yea, check yourself buddy, we get paid the same amount of money. ...until the hard-worker is promoted/gets a raise due to working harder (and letting the boss know). :)
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Mar 24, 2015 at 21:50 | history | edited | Lawrence Aiello | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 24, 2015 at 21:44 | history | answered | Lawrence Aiello | CC BY-SA 3.0 |