Timeline for How common is overtime in programming field?
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:48 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Mar 26, 2015 at 21:24 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @John-M I know quite a few government paper pushers who make an absolute killing in overtime... to the point that as gloried clerks, they easily make six figures, so that's my experience. I'll grant that If you do anything productive or useful, they'll find a way to say you don't qualify for overtime, but if you're actually a bureaucrat, you can make a killing just for spending a few extra hours pushing files from one place to another. | |
| Mar 26, 2015 at 21:04 | comment | added | John-M |
@HopelessN00b we're all members of a bureaucracy, regardless of how you slice it -- and even if I stick to your... nuanced... definition, all government executives are also exempt from the overtime provisions, even though I doubt they would pass your not-a-bureaucrat test criteria
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| Mar 26, 2015 at 20:45 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @John-M a computer programmer who works for the government is no more a "bureaucrat" than a special forces operator is. Stretching the definition of "bureaucrat" that far makes it virtually useless - bureaucrats are the people involved in the day to day administration of a bureaucracy, not just anyone who works for one... Which is the point I was getting at there - the people involved in writing and enforcing the law do so to their benefit, rather than by any overarching logic or principles. | |
| Mar 26, 2015 at 12:27 | comment | added | John-M | I'm a 'governmnet bureaucrat' that is also a computer programmer -- I'm exempt from the overtime provisions of the FLSA... as is practically every single supervisor in the government (as specified in rules for exemption), in addition to all military and foreign service personnel regardless of pay/occupation. Why would you assume the federal government doesn't follow these rules...? | |
| S Mar 26, 2015 at 4:12 | history | edited | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| S Mar 26, 2015 at 4:12 | history | suggested | Esoteric Screen Name | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 26, 2015 at 3:54 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @EsotericScreenName The fact that they're the ones who write and enforce the rules, as well as having the ability to, in effect, fire their bosses (by voting them out of office) has a lot more to do with it than "union" "negotiations" - it's very thinly veiled graft, and nothing more. | |
| Mar 26, 2015 at 3:48 | comment | added | Esoteric Screen Name | "Somehow government bureaucrats are considered eligible for overtime, though... funny how that works." - because they have a strong union which negotiates for OT. As far as I know, they're the only group of exempt employees with one. | |
| Mar 25, 2015 at 3:47 | history | edited | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 25, 2015 at 3:35 | history | answered | HopelessN00b | CC BY-SA 3.0 |