Timeline for Xenophobic email sent by a senior colleague. What's an appropriate reaction?
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| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:47 | comment | added | Akabelle | @ProvoloneDolce it's been a while, but how was the case solved? Also, did I get it right? A South American person wrote to a Spanish person in Germany? | |
| Nov 21, 2016 at 5:07 | comment | added | NZKshatriya | Wow, what a snarky, immature, and by no means tongue-in-cheek email that is. Implying someone is sickly or lazy due to being of insert ethnic descent here should be taken on the same level as racial epithets, aka, not tolerated. My personal view, is that the recipient of the email should address this to her boss. | |
| Oct 12, 2016 at 14:49 | comment | added | Pecheneg | It depends on the company culture, here my boss says we have "Equal Discrimination rules", while he mocks all of our nationalities equally. | |
| Dec 4, 2015 at 11:48 | answer | added | Gray Sheep | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 28, 2015 at 3:28 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackWorkplace/status/592893100642668544 | ||
| Apr 27, 2015 at 11:51 | comment | added | Joe Smentz | Also one final question - how old is your friend? Are any of the things he said to her (like not being physically active) true? | |
| Apr 27, 2015 at 8:36 | comment | added | Basic | @ProvoloneDolce Thanks for the update but I have to say not telling HR sounds risky. If it happens again, there's no official record to point at | |
| Apr 26, 2015 at 18:47 | comment | added | Provolone Dolce | @Aba: my friend decided not to go to HR but to talk to her boss and tell her what happened. She didn't show her boss the email but simply told her what the content is. Her boss will deal it. If I get any further information I'll post it. | |
| Apr 26, 2015 at 18:37 | comment | added | Joe Smentz | What ended up happening here? | |
| Apr 26, 2015 at 17:41 | comment | added | Provolone Dolce | @Quara Feans: My friend works in Germany for a German bank. | |
| Apr 25, 2015 at 15:13 | comment | added | Quora Feans | @ProvoloneDolce: I think some clarifications are needed. Why was this tagged "Germany"? Has ProvoloneDolce hinted that it was in Germany? Besides that, if a Latin American talks about "Iberian extraction", wouldn't that include himself? And a last point, was the possibly racist colleague truly Latin American, or maybe a German who grew up in Latin American? | |
| Apr 24, 2015 at 8:41 | comment | added | algiogia | Before jumping on the "culprit", is this his usual behaviour? Does he make often this kind of "jokes"? If yes, maybe it's what he means for humour. If not, does he have any grudge against your friend? Maybe he genuinely thinks she's pretending, although this is not the right way to point it out. | |
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| Apr 23, 2015 at 2:22 | history | protected | CommunityBot | ||
| Apr 23, 2015 at 0:35 | answer | added | Socrates | timeline score: -5 | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 17:42 | comment | added | reirab | How was the working relationship of the people in question prior to the e-mail? This really does sound like a joke (albeit one in rather poor taste,) but whether it's serious or a joke could likely be answered by the past relationship of these two people. It doesn't exactly sound like this is the first time the people in question have communicated. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 17:28 | history | edited | Monica Cellio | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 17:16 | comment | added | user56reinstatemonica8 | @Cronax No, I'm with Provolone Dolce on this one. Yes, people sometimes make stereotype-fuelled jokes with close friends who are the opposite of the stereotype because they know they'll see the joke. But four long sentences of calling an ill person old, malingering and lazy (twice), bringing up an offensive stereotype twice, implying they're not really ill twice, and using a self-indulgent line clearly intended as biting ("as soon as my numerous work activities allow me") - then phoning four times while the ill person is home resting? No way is that intended as a friendly joke. Not a chance. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 16:55 | answer | added | Joe Smentz | timeline score: 29 | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 15:50 | answer | added | ChrisLively | timeline score: 23 | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:16 | comment | added | David K | @ProvoloneDolce Once your friend takes action, I would love to hear an update of what ended up happening. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:44 | answer | added | Thorsten S. | timeline score: 33 | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:29 | comment | added | Cronax | @ProvoloneDolce Many people make the mistake of attempting to use brands of humor in written text that really only work when you can hear the intonation of someone's voice and can see their facial expression. This seems to be an instance of that. I've had similar experiences before where someone would use stereotypical prejudices as a basis for humor, thinking that the recipient would understand he would never seriously insult a colleague like that so they would see the humor... | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:10 | comment | added | Bobson | @ProvoloneDolce - You might want to post the Spanish original, as well. I certainly wouldn't understand it, but it's possible that someone else who would might find it useful. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:08 | comment | added | Provolone Dolce | @Cronax. That's a very good point and I actually brought up to her that it might be a joke, but if that were the case it would be an strepitously clumsy way of being tong-in-cheek. He calls her incompetent, old and lazy. I don't read it as a joke. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:04 | comment | added | user29632 | @ProvoloneDolce You say he rang from his phone after making the call - did he talk about the email, or verbally repeat it or similar things, or was the call as though he hadn't sent it in the first place? | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 11:54 | comment | added | Cronax | Unfortunately I have no mastery over the Spanish language so I wouldn't be able to read the original, but at least in English the email reads like something that could very well be meant "tongue-in-cheek", meaning the writer isn't seriously being racist but is attempting humor. Is there any chance you're running into Hanlon's Razor? (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) | |
| S Apr 22, 2015 at 11:08 | history | suggested | Alexander |
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| S Apr 22, 2015 at 9:25 | history | suggested | llrs | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 8:43 | answer | added | takacsmark | timeline score: 65 | |
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 8:39 | answer | added | shockedSpaniard | timeline score: 5 | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 8:19 | comment | added | Brandin | Does your senior colleague react such a way for all colleagues who take sick leave, or is it just because of her country of origin? Either way unprofessional indeed. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 8:16 | answer | added | Vietnhi Phuvan | timeline score: 113 | |
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 7:48 | history | asked | Provolone Dolce | CC BY-SA 3.0 |