Timeline for Xenophobic email sent by a senior colleague. What's an appropriate reaction?
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| Apr 23, 2015 at 4:55 | comment | added | nvoigt♦ | I'd also like to point out that as a German, I have done all the things you said Germans don't do. Been called by colleagues while sick, making jokes in email and constantly joking around with our non-german colleagues using words that at face value would probably paint me as an evil racist. Because I know them and we do this with each other. Trying it on a remote worker that is not as close while she is probably feeling like shit and taking prescription drugs is definetly a stupid idea. But it's not as unheard of as you make it seem. At least not in IT. | |
| Apr 23, 2015 at 4:47 | comment | added | nvoigt♦ | You may also want to check your definition of "mobbing" with the definitions elsewhere. Mobbing is defined as something that is systematic and happens repeatedly. Being an idiot once, although not acceptable, is not even mobbing. | |
| Apr 23, 2015 at 4:42 | comment | added | nvoigt♦ | The judgement you quoted means that someone can be fired immediately, if the bullying is ongoing, the victim is getting sick from it and the bully does not stop despite knowing he is causing harm. You may notice that this is the same as actually causing physical harm to others in the company. You can fire employees that cause someone else to be harmed. Did you notice the details like ongoing and causing harm? This does not apply to a single email that he was not even given the chance to explain or apologize. Again, you cannot be fired for writing a single email like this one in Germany. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 20:54 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | The word mobbing is now cursive to indicate that it is a specific German term. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 20:53 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
make clear that mobbing is German terminology
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 20:45 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | As the situation is specific for Germany, I now clarified that it is the term of false anglicism used in Germany. As it is rampant (law, self-help groups etc.) it remains in the text now, especially because it does not discern between single or group ostracization and the use of violence. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 20:37 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
bullying/mobbing issue
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 19:57 | comment | added | Izkata | @ThorstenS. "Mobbing" in the US means a group of people doing the bullying. Usually with physical altercation, but I don't think it's required | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 19:03 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
More info
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 14:56 | comment | added | nvoigt♦ | "The mail is sufficient reason to fire the culprit immediately" no, it's not. It might be reason for an "Abmahnung", but not more. | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:46 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
think I am done
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:41 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | I think at least the USA knows the meaning now | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:39 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
more info
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:23 | comment | added | Jenny D | This is a very good answer. Only thing - "mobbing" is the same term in Swedish and German, but in English it's translated as "bullying". | |
| Apr 22, 2015 at 13:13 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
more info
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| Apr 22, 2015 at 12:44 | history | answered | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |