Timeline for How to politely say "I don't want to work for someone from XY country"?
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Sep 11, 2015 at 12:09 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | ... of course this doesn't necessarily amount to xenophobia, and I don't know whether the questioner is a racist or not. All we know is that he fears being a racist (and in my experience, outright racists are the last people to worry about whether they're "being an ass, chauvanist, racist, and so on"). But in the event that you do encounter someone who is outright racist and xenophobic, then I believe it's incorrect to say that their actions in business contexts literally cannot be considered racist or xenophobic because those words somehow aren't applicable to business. | |
Sep 11, 2015 at 12:00 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @camden_kid: no, it doesn't turn you into a xenophobe. But if someone's response to a bad experience is to think, "what is the nationality of the person who caused that experience? I shall shun all people of the same nationality!" then one very strongly suspects that person was prejudiced all along, and their business strategies merely reflect that. Why is it nationality they choose to categorise by? Why not boycott clients by age, or sex, or hair colour, or the make of car the client drives? Because they judge people by nationality and not by hair colour. | |
Sep 10, 2015 at 2:02 | comment | added | keshlam | if the reason you don't want to socialize with them is their country of origin, trying to find less offensive names for that bias may make you feel better but doesn't change the fact that it's prejudice. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 16:55 | comment | added | camden_kid | @Luke One could argue that not socialising with people from country X is not being bigoted because it is just socialising. A person can like people from country X but not want to socialise with them. Does that make them a bigot? I think not. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 16:36 | comment | added | Luke | @camden_kid I don't think the fact that it is business makes any difference. You could just as easily replace business with social "I had some bad social experiences with people from X country and so I don't want to socialize with people from X country again." That's still bigoted... to assume that all people from one country are going to be the same. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 16:36 | comment | added | cdkMoose | Business or otherwise, if your only exclusion criteria is that country, then those terms probably apply. If it was truly just a business decision, you'd evaluate each client independently. While your history with clients in that country can be part of the evaluation, there should be more to it. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 16:12 | comment | added | camden_kid | @Luke I understand where you and others are coming from but I feel that words like xenophobe just don't apply when it comes to business decisions. I don't believe unhappiness with a few clients turns one into a xenophobe. It turns one into a --------- (a word that describes someone who has had an unhappy experience doing business with people from a country and no longer wants to be in that position again). I guess I'm saying that there should be some other word(s) to reflect these particular business situations. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 15:35 | comment | added | Luke | @camden_kid given that differences in ways of doing business usually result from cultural differences, I would say xenophobe is a pretty apt term in such a case. | |
Sep 8, 2015 at 2:01 | comment | added | user29768 | Depending on the individual you are speaking with, you still may well come across as self-righteous (sanctimonious? judgmental? holier-than-thou?). In some sense of the word, you are one. If you don't want to be honest, you could make up any sort of lie, I suppose. That might help you not to come across as self-righteous, but you will of course be a liar. | |
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Sep 7, 2015 at 17:21 | comment | added | DA. | @camden_kid but then that's not an issue of people, but rather business--assuming it's correct to say that is how all business in that industry from that country work due to regulations or what have you. | |
Sep 7, 2015 at 10:58 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @camden_kid: whether the words apply depends whether that's what you're doing or not. If the reason you aren't working in country X is because that county's legal requirements/regulations are too onerous then it doesn't apply. If you refuse to work for anyone from country X because after a number of bad experiences you've reached the conclusion that people from that country aren't to be trusted, then such words may well apply. There's nothing to stop bigots doing business, so naturally the word sometimes applies when talking about business. | |
Sep 7, 2015 at 8:40 | comment | added | AI Generated Response | It also heavily depends on laws regarding the two countries. I'm much more hesitant to do business with someone from a country where there isn't much protection for an overseas contractor. | |
Sep 7, 2015 at 8:32 | comment | added | camden_kid | Do words like bigot, xenophobe, etc. really apply when talking about business? I'm inclined to think not. Different countries have different ways of doing business and it can sometimes be a difficult experience. | |
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Sep 5, 2015 at 11:15 | history | answered | Joe Strazzere | CC BY-SA 3.0 |