Timeline for Can I be fired if my employer thinks I am looking for another job?
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May 19, 2013 at 11:00 | comment | added | Paul Fleming | @pdr. Not at hand, but it is allured in the link you referenced in your post. "Not entitled to claim by tribunal" (emphasis mine). | |
May 19, 2013 at 10:36 | comment | added | pdr | @flem: I don't think that's true. Do you have a link for that? | |
May 19, 2013 at 10:02 | comment | added | Paul Fleming | @pdr. Not strictly true. In the UK, unfair dismissal is unfair dismissal regardless of how long you've worked there (probationary periods are a bit of an exception - to an extent). The periods you mention are the periods for your right to claim to the Employee Tribunal. You can still claim but by other means. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 17:34 | comment | added | Matt Ridge | @RandyE I did contract for 15+ years, and also full time work for another 10, if people want to find excuses to fire you they will. Justified or not, EaW is an excuse for laziness, acceptance of intolerance, racism, sexism, etc. Because if you push for a reason why you were fired, they don’t have to give you a reason. They could say it’s not working out. The EaW clause is a weak person’s ability to get rid of people that don’t agree with him/her in any form or fashion. The EaW clause really should be called the anti-yes-man clause. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 17:25 | comment | added | Randy E | @MattRidge Where I work it is an "at will" employment, which means that they can fire you for whatever reason they want. However, it's never been exercised. There is always clear documentation leading up to the firing (including several warnings most of the time). Most company's don't simply fire you just to get rid of you. If you're in that type of an environment you should leave. At the very least, even if the company has no loyalty to you, they will want to ensure you can't collect unemployment and raise their unemployment insurance costs. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 14:45 | comment | added | Matt Ridge | @maple_shaft If an employee knows that their company is going to stand behind them, and not fire outright for no apparent reason, the people will become more effective as a whole. If they are under threat of firing just for breathing the wrong way, in many cases they won't be as effective. This isn't just my opinion, I've seen it. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 13:14 | comment | added | pdr | @MattRidge: Completely agree. I'm annoyed enough by this 2 year change. The idea that small businesses are not hiring because they're worried that, at some point down the line, they're going to want to fire someone immorally without risk of being sued just doesn't wash. But we're into chat territory. :) | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 13:09 | comment | added | maple_shaft | @MattRidge We live in a globalized world now so there are MANY more people competing for jobs in an already ultra-efficient economy. The long term value of employees has become an obsolete concept in todays world. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 12:51 | comment | added | Matt Ridge | @pdr I would throttle the person that says Employee at Will is a good thing. There are some cases where ok, I can understand, but there is no more Company Loyalty, or Employee Loyalty either, which in reality is a bad thing. Wish this wasn't true though. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 12:47 | comment | added | pdr | @MattRidge: Yes. There has been recent talk about that in the UK too. guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/sep/09/… | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 12:09 | comment | added | Matt Ridge | In the United States, this is what we call the Employee at Will Clause. You are an employee as long as the company wills it to be so, and if they don't they can terminate you without reason or question. | |
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Nov 1, 2012 at 11:43 | comment | added | pdr | @Neuro: Yeesh. They slipped that through without my noticing. Thanks. | |
Nov 1, 2012 at 10:52 | comment | added | Neuro | It is now two years before you can claim unfir dismissal as of April 2012. | |
Oct 31, 2012 at 23:55 | history | edited | pdr | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Oct 31, 2012 at 23:12 | history | answered | pdr | CC BY-SA 3.0 |