Timeline for Single parent takes many sick days
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| Apr 28, 2016 at 21:03 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @xxbbcc Well, there's a reason I used to work there, rather than currently working there, you know. ;) Definitely learned a lot from that job, though. For example, stopping the line for a single minute cost over $100,000... which should be instructive as to why they are so intolerant of unplanned absences or tardiness. And that's not even considering the dozens or hundreds of people waiting in line to take that long-time worker's position. So while it's harsh and even cruel, it's not unreasonable or counter-productive. The primary thing they're paying for is reliability, not skills. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 20:50 | comment | added | user7230 | It is a production line for assembling stuff, 20+ years might even be a disadvantage. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 20:46 | comment | added | xxbbcc | @HopelessN00b I'm sure you're right but I see it wrong that a worker of 20+ years (likely a good worker after so much time) would get fired for the reasons mentioned. There's no way that's not counterproductive. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 20:35 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @xxbbcc And yet, there was a several month waiting list to even get on there under a sub-contracting company, for the possibility to get hired on by Honda years down the line. The perils of having no marketable job skills and no higher education. The harsh reality is that unskilled or semi-skilled workers, like the majority of those in the manufacturing sector, don't have any better options. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 20:21 | comment | added | xxbbcc | @HopelessN00b Fantastic place to work at, I'm sure, if a 20+ year worker gets fired because of sickness. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 22:41 | comment | added | HopelessN00b | @MSalters It's not the amount of time off, it's that the time off is unplanned. And it's a sector-wide problem in manufacturing, not just for this one company or small companies in general. I used to work at Honda, on the production line, and they were extremely intolerant of unplanned absences or lateness, for the same reasons as the OP's company. Being late, or taking unscheduled PTO 3 times in 30 days resulted in termination, period. They had people who'd worked there for 20+ years who got fired for being sick or late 3 times in a month. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 9:28 | comment | added | CptEric | In my country you have 3 days each month to take care of sick childs (only one of the two parents can take them, and it's always 3 days , no matter the nº of sick childs), then there's the sick leave, where the first 3 days are unpaid, and then there's unpaid leaves and/or vacations, that must be adviced 1 week earlier. so here 2 days / month is really normal for a single parent with two kids. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 0:42 | comment | added | mxyzplk | Other people get sick too, either the line has a coverage strategy or they're poorly managed. We're talking about a larger amount, but not double, of the outage everyone else has given 80 hrs PTO. In the end, consider what kind of company you want to be (and want people to read about on Glassdoor) and do what you think is best. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 0:40 | history | edited | mxyzplk | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 26, 2016 at 16:11 | comment | added | HedgeMage | Downvoted, because offering an opinion on what someone ought to do in a "suck it up" tone without providing strategies to make them more able to do it isn't actually helpful. We're here to give the questioner answers, not make ourselves feel morally superior. Also, as others have already commented, there are jobs where unscheduled time off comes at a huge cost. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:54 | comment | added | MSalters | @WorkerDrone: Well, it's quite usual to take 2 or 3 weeks off as a single long holiday, and even for a single-week vacation you'd give some notice. But for a single day off, it wouldn't be unheard off. I've in fact seen a rule that the deadline for taking the day off was 9 AM. And obviously, that assumes you don't have any hard reason to be present. (Don't try it as a soccer player before an important match ;) ). But in manufacturing? It's pretty standard to have a stand-by team that can fill in any critical position. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:35 | comment | added | WorkerDrone | @MSalters - in Europe, do the 25 days occur without notice? Do folks just call in that morning 25 times per year and say "I'm taking a day off"? | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 8:29 | comment | added | MSalters | As a European, with 2 days of vacation per month (25/year), it's indeed really surprising that American companies cannot handle that level of absence. Pretty much any European company can, whether they have 2000 or 2 employees. | |
| Apr 25, 2016 at 23:52 | history | answered | mxyzplk | CC BY-SA 3.0 |