Timeline for Is it unprofessional of me to play games before and after work, whilst at the office?
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| Nov 25, 2016 at 18:03 | history | edited | Joe Strazzere | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 25, 2016 at 16:51 | comment | added | Joe | @Joe Strazzere I was addressing your comment regarding health in hopes to enlighten you. Appears thats not going to happen so I will just drop it and move on. | |
| Nov 25, 2016 at 16:02 | comment | added | Joe | @Joe Strazzere - Just search google for 'overworking healthy'. There is a ton of info from highly regarded sources. No need for me to go into details in comments. Also I was replying to your comment about not understanding how spending this extra 60 minutes or so working rather than a doing a non-work related leisure activity is detrimental to ones health. I agree, lets not pretend, its fact that playing games in moderation can be relaxing and stress relieving and thus more healthy. Again tons of research data available. The professional aspect is already well covered in this thread. | |
| Nov 25, 2016 at 14:58 | comment | added | Joe | @Joe Strazzere Spending the extra time working rather than a leisure activity can indeed be detrimental to both physical and mental health. More and more data are being published on the effects of overworking, if you research the topic I think you will begin to understand the difference. | |
| Nov 25, 2016 at 9:58 | comment | added | jwenting | @simbabque agreed. Way too many people feel the need to join the rat race, be the first in, last out, always at maximum stress levels, so they're not seen as "lazy" or "unmotivated" by managers which will lead them to end up on the next list of layoffs. Been there, done that, got the burnout. Learned the hard way that if your managers don't care about you except for where your breaking point is and keeping you just shy of it, you'd be better off not working there. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 15:13 | history | edited | Joe Strazzere | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 24, 2016 at 14:13 | comment | added | jmoreno | I would take exception to the "works to the clock". While it could be true, i.e. everyday at EOD + 2 seconds he's got his game up and running, it's not necessarily true per the question. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:49 | comment | added | user45590 | @JoeStrazzere, great answer. I would add that it's not just about your boss seeing you working or not. If you work that extra time it should also be reflected in greater output. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:47 | comment | added | user45590 | @Migz I'm also based in the UK (in the software field, too) and I don't agree with your characterization. While the overall expectation of working hours/effort is different, in many workplaces it will certainly get noticed which employees put in extra and which work the bare minimum. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:45 | comment | added | simbabque | @Joe I was referring to the part about the manager taking note of what people do before and after working hours while they are still there. Working a bit more once in a while is certainly not a problem, but if it gets to a point where the manager is acutely aware of the fact that someone works way more than they are supposed to then in my opinion they should be sent home. Staying longer and doing something else is certainly not a problem to your health, but that was not my argument anyway. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:42 | comment | added | Migz | @Joe for completion I should probably add how software developers are often treated in western europe. As a software developer, I'm given a large amount of freedom to do what I want. most companies here try to lure in software developers with pleasant and stress free working enviroments. Very often developers who could earn 6k monthly are satisfied with getting 4k because of these enviroments. This happens in both smaller and larger companies. Your points still stand and is very valid, but I feel like they would be less crucial in the UK. which is where OP is from. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:33 | comment | added | simbabque | @Joe working longer than your contract says is not working hard. At best, it's cheating yourself, and at worst it's detrimental to your health and in consequence it's bad for the company because you could get sick and be gone, or stop doing it while the company learns to rely on unsolicited extra efforts by employees. When I manage people, I tend to send them home if I notice they stay too long because I prefer rested, motivated people over work-product that was done by someone tired who can't concentrate any more just to be done faster. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 13:09 | comment | added | Migz | I will say, that having a boss to walk around to see who's all professional and such... those are things that typically don't belong in companies in western europe. In fact, it's typically an american thing. Yes, every boss wants professional employees. However in europe the distance between bosses, managers and employees are much smaller. In europe companies try to build a long lasting "relationship" with the employee. In america you're just another person they can replace. Professionalism mainly matters just towards the customer. often not internally. | |
| Nov 24, 2016 at 11:38 | history | answered | Joe Strazzere | CC BY-SA 3.0 |