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Dec 5, 2016 at 14:40 history edited Vietnhi Phuvan CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 4, 2016 at 20:36 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Erik - Unfortunately. I never asked for that privilege. I was simply awarded it.
Dec 4, 2016 at 20:35 comment added Erik Lifelong, by the sound of it ;)
Dec 4, 2016 at 20:34 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Erik - Really? And what's your advice? I am pretty sure that I have a lot more experience dealing with bad guys, scumbags and hard case assholes than you do.
Dec 4, 2016 at 20:26 comment added Erik You seem to misunderstand. I'm not saying this person shouldn't stand their ground. I'm saying your advice for how to do so is terrible.
Dec 4, 2016 at 20:25 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Erik - if you don't stand your ground as a professional and you don't have the guts to ask for information you need to perform your task when that information is plainly needed for you to be able to perform your task in the way it is supposed to be done, then I have no use for you: you are not a professional.
Dec 4, 2016 at 20:21 comment added Erik It's not unreasonable. But it is career suicide if said to a manager incompetent enough to yell at employees, because those ARE unreasonable.
Dec 4, 2016 at 19:25 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Erik - So what - what is it in that sentence that's unreasonable? Since when does firmly insisting - without raising one's voice, that the manager provide the information without which the task cannot be performed properly - since when does this constitute "talking back" ? If the OP does not ask but instead performs her task based on guesses that turn out to be wrong, her manager's inevitable berating will be justified on the basis that the OP performed her task wrong. If the OP performs enough tasks the wrong way, she is headed for termination for under performance, lack of fit, etc.
Dec 4, 2016 at 18:47 comment added Erik Here: 'If her screaming nonetheless gets to you, stare at her icily and say "LOOK! I am not a mind reader and the only way I know what you want is when I ask you want you want and you give me an answer."'
Dec 4, 2016 at 18:22 comment added Lilienthal @VietnhiPhuvan I would have hoped your time-out would have made you less antagonistic but I guess I should have known better. My advice applied to an unreasonable manager in an otherwise reasonable company. And once again you are reading way too much into the examples the OP gave.
Dec 4, 2016 at 18:21 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Mara - Live long enough and work in enough different places and you'll get to meet all kinds of characters :)
Dec 4, 2016 at 18:19 comment added Mara Thank you for your advice. I definitely need to harden myself up a bit and keep my cool and wits about me. I've been fortunate that many of my previous managers have been very supportive and mentoring. Therefore never had to deal with this type of personality before.
Dec 4, 2016 at 12:36 comment added Vietnhi Phuvan @Erik - You get one chance to show me that you read my answer and my comments with the appropriate care and respect. Where in my comment did I say "talk back"?
Dec 4, 2016 at 12:29 comment added Erik If anything is job suicide, it's that last paragraph of yours. Talking back to someone who's terrible enough at their job to resort to screaming at employees is going to end with you either being fired or punched in the face.
Dec 4, 2016 at 12:24 history edited Vietnhi Phuvan CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 4, 2016 at 11:51 comment added Lilienthal I'm not sure what workplaces you're used to but in any I've been in, the correct response to someone aggressively shouting in your face is not to just sit there and take it. It's to cut the "conversation" short and walk straight to HR. OP also hasn't mentioned behaviour even close to that so I'm not sure why you've made most of your answer about that.
Dec 4, 2016 at 9:27 history edited Vietnhi Phuvan CC BY-SA 3.0
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Dec 4, 2016 at 9:21 history answered Vietnhi Phuvan CC BY-SA 3.0