Timeline for Is it reasonable to expect overtime from unpaid interns?
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| Jul 1, 2017 at 18:15 | comment | added | rvs | You sound like a passionate and smart person. PM me and I might be able to refer you to proper paid internship next time. :) | |
| Jun 21, 2017 at 10:03 | comment | added | user2338816 | @gazzz0x2z Agreed, but there's a difference between "job" and "work". It's not clear which the OP actually enjoys. If staff at OP's work is leaving at 6, it's different from staff regularly leaving at 7:30 and grumbling constantly. And if staff leaves at 6, but OP is pressured to stay longer...? Is that a desirable "job" if the same "work" can be done at XYZ, Corp.? OP might not find it so enjoyable in a paid position, and internship isn't permanent. The whole situation needs more clarity. | |
| Jun 21, 2017 at 8:29 | comment | added | gazzz0x2z | @user2338816 : I don't see the contradiction. You may love your job and enjoy it even more while not exhausted. | |
| Jun 21, 2017 at 4:52 | comment | added | user2338816 |
I really enjoy where I am working and I don't think it's smart to burn myself out working 12-hour days seem somewhat contradictory. Can you reconcile? How does paid staff behave?
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| Jun 20, 2017 at 20:40 | comment | added | Loki Astari | If they are not paying for your labour. Then is the code you produce not yours to keep? | |
| Jun 20, 2017 at 15:38 | comment | added | xDaizu | I wouldn't even expect overtime from paid workers. | |
| Jun 20, 2017 at 13:23 | comment | added | Jonast92 | I'd advice you to make reviews on companies like this on sites like Glassdoor to warn others about what they can be getting themselves into. | |
| Jun 20, 2017 at 6:47 | comment | added | Luaan | Do you have some reason for staying in an unpaid internship when you already seem capable of delivering "solid work"? Is it mandatory for your university course or something? An unpaid internship is supposed to be a net gain to you despite being unpaid - ditch it as soon as you no longer feel that way. And learning a work culture that puts emphasis on "hours per day" (especially unpaid, or on a weekly/montly wage) is something you want to run away from, fast. | |
| Jun 19, 2017 at 22:21 | comment | added | iheanyi | What's unclear here are your task structure and when you "finish" so you can leave at 6pm. Playing devil's advocate that your manager phrased things badly. . . You said daily tasks - do you not have tasks that take more than one day to complete? Leave at 6pm - are you working right up until 6pm or do you have 1 hour or so at the end of the day where you've finished a "days" task and are waiting for the clock to get to 6pm? Your manager may be concerned that you're wasting time at the end of the day and never taking on tasks that take longer than a day to complete. | |
| Jun 19, 2017 at 20:02 | comment | added | CCJ | '[you] should always be looking for more work' sounds like something someone's father would say to shame a kid into doing extra chores. Such nonsense has no place in industry (except, perhaps, during work hours), especially for an unpaid intern. Ambition and dedication are great, but they shouldn't require an imbalance in one's work/life ratio. | |
| Jun 19, 2017 at 15:47 | comment | added | Cronax | From your post it's not completely clear if you are actually producing work until 6:00 or if you make sure you finish the task you were given for the day and then 'stare at the clock' until it's 6:00. If you're frequently done with your task well before the day ends, that's probably what is meant with 'looking for more work'. In general though, it seems like you're being treated like a normal paid employee by your boss, which is sounds like abuse. You might talk to someone from school about that (a mentor or somesuch). | |
| Jun 19, 2017 at 13:24 | comment | added | Steve Smith | Like most questions in /workplace could do with, could OP please update us with the outcome? :) | |
| Jun 19, 2017 at 11:40 | comment | added | T. Sar | @Lilienthal I think that expressing some empathy on the comments, while not the intended use of them, is far away from useless, even more so on a largely social place like The Workplace. | |
| S Jun 19, 2017 at 6:44 | history | suggested | user16467 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Added [internship] tag, clarified title
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| Jun 19, 2017 at 0:29 | history | protected | Monica Cellio | ||
| Jun 18, 2017 at 12:04 | answer | added | undefinedman | timeline score: 35 | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 21:17 | answer | added | TOOGAM | timeline score: 40 | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 17:43 | comment | added | Lilienthal♦ | Before you comment, check if you are using comments for their intended purpose. They are mainly to ask for clarification from the OP. If you are answering the question there is an answer box for that below. If you want to express your incredulity or lament the unfairness of unpaid internships please do so silently or take it to The Workplace Chat. | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 17:19 | answer | added | gnasher729 | timeline score: 70 | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 16:44 | comment | added | McCann | If you are in the U.S. please take note of the current laws regarding internships and when they must be paid vs unpaid: dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.htm | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 16:21 | comment | added | alroc | Please tag this with your location. In the US, this "internship" would almost certainly violate Department of Labor regulations | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 15:46 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackWorkplace/status/876103821981777920 | ||
| Jun 17, 2017 at 13:39 | answer | added | bobo2000 | timeline score: 137 | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 13:36 | answer | added | Steve-O | timeline score: 353 | |
| Jun 17, 2017 at 13:25 | answer | added | gazzz0x2z | timeline score: 89 | |
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| Jun 17, 2017 at 12:42 | history | asked | Dana Skully | CC BY-SA 3.0 |