Timeline for Falsely claimed current salary higher than actual in an interview and now I'm being asked for a salary sheet
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| Jul 12, 2017 at 14:14 | comment | added | Gabe Sechan | @Dukeling Happens all the time. People lie about their salary constantly. HR expects it. That may be a good reason for HR not to even ask that question, but nobody is going to hand over their paystubs to prove their salary, whether lying or not. Now telling me that you don't trust me or that I'm lying to you in an interview is extremely condescending and will get me to reject an offer (if not walk out of the room) on that basis alone. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 14:11 | history | edited | Bernhard Barker | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 12, 2017 at 14:07 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | @GabeSechan It's ridiculously unreasonable to expect that you can make claims without being willing to provide any sort of (readily-available) proof of said claims and any vaguely intelligent person would be extremely suspicious if you do this. Trying to tell people what's important to them or expecting them to just trust you is extremely condescending and you might find the offer withdrawn on that basis alone. | |
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| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:59 | comment | added | Gabe Sechan | @Dukeling No, it would work just fine, because its a tangent to what you're actually discussing. What you're really discussing is the salary you'd get at the new place. This is brining the discussion back into line. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:55 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | @GabeSechan If I ask someone "what is X", they say "X is Y", I ask them to prove it (because why wouldn't I?), and they respond with "X isn't relevant", my response would roughly be "What are you talking about? Why would you tell me X is Y? You were lying, weren't you?". That lands you in a significantly worse position than simply coming clean. Your mileage may vary. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:55 | comment | added | Leon | First option puts him in the worst position. Second isnt applicable since he mentioned already that they want it as proof that he did make Y as per his claim. Third one closes the door for this position but he at least saves face since he has a valid excuse with the commitment part mentioned. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:55 | comment | added | Hungry Mind | @Dukeling Apologizing is the worst option for me also. That will make me very uncomfortable even while working. I have already said I am paid as I told and will send my sheet. I should have handled this well but gone is gone. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:53 | comment | added | Gabe Sechan | No it isn't. They asked, he answered. That doesn't mean that he needs to provide proof for it, or that it matters to the final result. Telling them the truth would be utterly illogical, it can only hurt him | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:51 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | @GabeSechan OP already lied about their current salary, "what I'm making now isn't relevant" is an illogical thing to say at this stage, since they already provided this information (and I already recommended this for future reference in my answer). | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:49 | history | edited | Bernhard Barker | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:46 | comment | added | Gabe Sechan | No his best option is to say "I believe I'm worth X. What I'm making now isn't relevant. Make me your best offer and we'll take it from there. Otherwise, good luck to you in your search". Telling the truth now is his worst options on every level, because it destroys his negotiating power and shows he isn't willing to stand up for himself. ANd his employment would never be terminated later for lying, because by then either he's proved he is worth the salary, or he isn't. At most it would be used as an excuse if they wanted to get rid of him anyway. | |
| Jul 12, 2017 at 13:44 | history | answered | Bernhard Barker | CC BY-SA 3.0 |