Timeline for How to use an external offer in salary negotiation WITHOUT threatening to quit [duplicate]
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| Sep 13, 2017 at 13:57 | history | closed |
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Duplicate of Do I mention a competing offer when negotiating a raise? | |
| Sep 13, 2017 at 12:32 | answer | added | mutt | timeline score: 3 | |
| Sep 13, 2017 at 11:10 | comment | added | Shauna | Then you need to have a serious salary discussion with your boss. | |
| Sep 13, 2017 at 10:41 | answer | added | Cronax | timeline score: 8 | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 22:24 | comment | added | BlackHatGuy | @HLGEM What if I've already had several promotions (substantial increases in responsibility etc.) but, because it's a very small company, it's the kind of thing that just happened, rapidly, over say 6 months, and we haven't had a serious salary discussion since about a year ago. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:53 | comment | added | HLGEM | Virtually no company is going to give anyone not a senior manager a 50% pay raise. There is no budget at any company that has that kind of pay raise built in. That is just the way the world works. If you really want that money then get a new job. If you like the job then accept that you will be underpaid as long as you are there. However, if you have expanded your skills beyond your job description, it is sometimes possible to get a large pay raise but changing job titles. In other words, shoot for a promotion instead of a pay raise. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:34 | comment | added | Neo | @BlackHatGuy If I ever get to the point I have to look for a job to make things right, then its time for me to move on. YMMV | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:18 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:08 | comment | added | Neo | @BlackHatGuy I provided the answer for you. ;-) | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:07 | comment | added | BlackHatGuy | @MisterPositive I don't know. I'm stumped. So I figured I'd ask the community and see if someone can think of something I can't. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 18:04 | comment | added | Neo | @BlackHatGuy Your intent is clear and understandable, but I don't believe your employer will see it the way you do. If you go out and get another offer with the cash your asking for, exactly how is that not a threat on some level that you will resign if your demands are not met? | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:56 | comment | added | BlackHatGuy | @JoeStrazzere We started with "I'm unhappy with my pay. I feel the work I do is worth more to the company than that." then we moved into "I've progressed significantly since I started, learnt [skills], taken on [responsibilities], done [impactful business things] and I feel my salary needs to reflect the changes in what I do for the company". Then we moved into "If I wanted to, I could get a train into London and walk into a [related job] that pays double my current salary. This isn't me threatening to quit, but this is me saying that that needs to be addressed" and that's where I'm at. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:53 | comment | added | S. Grey | Keep in mind that there's often a tradeoff between "enjoyableness" of a job and how competitively it pays. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:52 | history | edited | Neo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:52 | comment | added | jfa | @JoeStrazzere right, he's not saying that he's leaving, that would be a bad move. So would telling them "i'll quit if I have to." Those to me are threats and would be a bad move. Telling them that he's considering another offer leaves him room to 'decide' that he likes his job more. It leaves him an out. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:48 | comment | added | jfa | @JoeStrazzere It's a negotiation. Telling them that you wouldn't leave is giving them carte blanche to blow you off. If OP is considering it, he should say that. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:47 | answer | added | Neo | timeline score: 27 | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:46 | comment | added | jfa | "I've received this other offer at X that I am considering taking." Wait to see what they say. I'd suggest not saying a number until you absolutely have to, or until they offer one first. I'd also suggest having a list of skills that makes you worth that number. I also wouldn't announce whether or not you want to leave, as that can be used against you. | |
| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:46 | history | edited | BlackHatGuy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:41 | review | First posts | |||
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| Sep 12, 2017 at 17:38 | history | asked | BlackHatGuy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |