Timeline for Is it appropriate for a recruiter to tell me I need to be able to take calls during the day?
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| Jan 28, 2019 at 16:23 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | You're talking about contracting work. That's not "recruiting" - the worker is not employed by the company he/she is doing work for, and is not their employee, they work for the contracting company. Apples and oranges. We're talking about a recruiter assisting a client company (of a full-time recruiter with a company) hiring an actual company employee. | |
| Jan 28, 2019 at 15:50 | comment | added | David | The Company pays x the contractor gets y. The difference is what the firm takes and in my experience its about 30% to 50% of what the Gross payout is. Some recruiters (like PoloHoleSet) shell shuffle it, disguise it with all kinds of terminology and small print. Some will come right out and tell you what the margin is (those are the best ones but they are rare). Decide what your worth decide what you want and make the bloodsuckers go out and find it for you. If your expectations are reasonable for your skills and experience you'll get it. If not they'll blow you off. | |
| Jan 25, 2019 at 17:50 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | It's becoming more and more clear that your claimed expertise and experience on this subject is not what you claim. | |
| Jan 25, 2019 at 17:48 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | I thought you claimed you worked with hundreds of recruiters over the years? (A) They don't take ANY of your gross pay. Their separate contingency fee is usually based on your first year's compensation, but none of that comes out of the candidate's pocket or is taken from the candidate's paycheck. (B) It used to be 25% to 30%, but when the worldwide recession hit and persisted for so many years, that got pushed down to closer to the 20% range, and I seriously doubt that it has bounced back, with the greater range of alternatives for companies to use vs. traditional recruiting. | |
| Jan 25, 2019 at 16:06 | comment | added | David | Most of them take 30%-50% of your gross pay. When you make more they make more. When you work overtime they get more money when you take time off they make less. Recruiters are a dime a dozen. So perhaps a better analogy is a leech they can suck ya dry or you can fish with em the choice is yours. | |
| Jan 24, 2019 at 15:03 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | I'm not saying you can't have a beneficial relationship with a recruiter, I'm not saying you can't gain a lot from that relationship. I'm telling you there is one customer, and it's the client company. That is who the recruiter works for. Not you, or any other candidate. You can make that relationship work for you, but saying that they work for you, as a candidate, is simply inaccurate. Your analogy is horrible, because with a used car salesman, you're the person paying the salesman and their company. In a recruiter situation, it's the company paying the recruiter. | |
| Jan 24, 2019 at 10:42 | history | edited | David | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 24, 2019 at 10:38 | comment | added | David | "recruiter training" is irrelevant. A recruiter is no different then a used car salesman. They take advantage of you or you take advantage of them. You can make them work for you or you can work for them the choice is yours. | |
| Jan 22, 2019 at 18:33 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | no, it's not "entirely point of view." In recruiter training, they emphasize "your customer is the company, not the candidate. Do not waste your valuable time trying to please candidates beyond what is needed to cooperate in the process." That was from my recruiter training with the company that was the largest international recruiting firm, at the time (right around 2000). Companies pay the fees. Candidates pay nothing. Candidates are the product, company is the client. | |
| Jan 22, 2019 at 1:07 | comment | added | David | @PoloHoleSet Its Entirely point of view. Act like a victim they can manipulate and take advantage of and they will. Its just like any other negotiation. | |
| Jan 15, 2019 at 16:51 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | Recruiters do not work for candidates. They work for the client company that pays their fee. While it is to their advantage to have a positive interaction with a candidate, and a good candidate is a valuable resource to them, the candidate is just that, a resource/commodity they are selling. The client is the customer, and some of the most successful recruiters brag about how quickly they can assess whether they should dump a potential candidate who they will not be able to a quickly convert into a fee. | |
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| Sep 17, 2017 at 21:15 | history | answered | David | CC BY-SA 3.0 |