Timeline for How to deal with productive procrastinators? [closed]
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| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:50 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | Maybe I can show you what I mean like this: Imagine you ask a question regarding a company that is polluting the air, then someone comes and comments. What country are you from? From your question it seems like You are not from a European country. So I think maybe a solution from a developed country won't be really adaptable to your needs :)) Ok yours wasn't as bad as this. But I hope you get what I mean:D I think I was just a little too hard on you tho ;) take it easy:D The funny thing is that actually the accepted answer is from the US:)) | |
| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:46 | comment | added | yukashima huksay |
I couldn't reword it in a way that would not offend me:)) The main points are: 1- Naming a specific country make no sense to me. I'd have just said my country instead, 2- Something makes me think that it's not the US makes me feel that there is a default country from which the questions should come, unless something makes you think it isn't. 3- I assumed that it was clear that the question was mostly about jealousy, which is a thing that has a dedicated word in every language on this planet and is not really specific to any culture. But maybe it wasn't really that clear.
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| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:33 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:32 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | @Harris I'd like to point out that this question was not meant to be a question that would have a one and only accepted answer. There can be different elegant solutions for it. So if it wasn't put on hold I'd have encouraged you to enlighten us with your own view on it. And about the country thing, it case you were wondering why I was somehow offended by it, I think I can bestly illustrate that by rewording your comment in a way that it would deliver almost the exact same point you wanted to deliver but in a whole different way and with a whole different sense at least to me, I'd have said: | |
| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:22 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | @HarrisWeinstein Your point is perfectly valid. Many people asked me for clarifications about it and I tried to clarify the issue for them in the comments while I should have done that in the question itself. And it was my bad. Now I corrected it. Yet I didn't mean this question for it's legal aspects and such. I meant this question as more of a thing concerning interpersonal relationships, leadership, management, and HR. And I want it to be easily adaptable for almost any culture. | |
| Jan 12, 2018 at 15:16 | history | edited | yukashima huksay | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 11, 2018 at 15:32 | comment | added | Harris | This site is able to handle international questions in part because we are able to tag questions for the countries they're meant to apply to and indicate the laws and customs. One thing I'm seeing here is a lot of people questioning what the actual issue with the situation is, which is a red flag that there is a mismatch in expectations between your area and a notable amount of answerers'. Specifying the country and/or work culture actually increases a question and answer's general usability; knowing which contexts an approach works in, which it doesn't, and why, is an asset. | |
| Jan 11, 2018 at 2:05 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | @HarrisWeinstein I believe If I wanted to specify my country, 1- I would have specified it in the question, 2- I would have specified it in my profile. For the record, no I'm not from US, and I don't really think 1- having one comment from each country asking such questions would be a good idea, 2- giving a country specific answer to questions would be very helpful in such a international Q&A site. | |
| Jan 10, 2018 at 20:38 | comment | added | Harris | I know this question already has an accepted answer, but what country are you in? Something makes me think that it's not the US, and that the expectations and priorities of employees might not totally align with an answer coming from the US. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 18:17 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | As I've pointed out the problem is with the spirit of other members of the team if we let him come and go whenever he want's. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 17:45 | comment | added | cdkMoose | Maybe change your evaluation to be based on work completed, not hours on the clock. If your work is very task based and he is completing as many tasks as every one else, what is the problem? | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 15:54 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | @LaurentS. We can't promote him. He is a basic worker, like a carpenter. He is just good in that. We definitely can't promote him for supervision jobs because as I said he is not such a responsible person. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 15:51 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | @Brandin It usually seems like that he was playing computer games until so late or having a party etc. But as I said he makes stupid excuses every time but we hear from here and there that he is probably doing such things. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 8:09 | comment | added | Laurent S. | It seems this guy is much too qualified for the work you’re giving him, so if you’re satisfied with the other team members’ productivity, why not try a different aproach with him? Why not promote him to a higher level of seniority, setting up higher expectations for him than the others, so that this extra productivity benefits your business instead of paying him for basically not worked hours. Of course this should come with an appropriate salary raise, but if you see it from an hourly rate perspective, considering the actual time he’s working for you, you’re basically paying him more already. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 8:01 | comment | added | Brandin |
Sometimes he comes to work like 4 hours late - This is not procrastinating. Procrastinating is doing other things (presumably lesser priority things) rather than the high priority ones. Coming in 4 hours late is something else (you need to investigate the cause, probably harder to correct than procrastination).
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| Jan 9, 2018 at 4:16 | history | closed |
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| Jan 9, 2018 at 1:13 | comment | added | Masked Man | You must definitely deal with him, just do it in his own style... deal with him later. First get rid of all the other incompetent lazy people who take twice as much as time to get their work done. | |
| Jan 9, 2018 at 0:38 | answer | added | A. I. Breveleri | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 22:56 | vote | accept | yukashima huksay | ||
| Jan 8, 2018 at 22:54 | history | edited | yukashima huksay | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 8, 2018 at 22:53 | answer | added | Isaiah3015 | timeline score: 11 | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 21:49 | answer | added | gazzz0x2z | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 21:36 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | Each time some new excuses about the horrible things that happens to him. But it's obvious that he is not being honest. The problem is each person is assigned a number of tasks daily which are all around the same for everyone. But this guy manages to finish the jobs on time and actually more. So we can't ask him to stay late when he has already done what he should. For the record. He has already been fired 3 times but hired again! because the manager got mad when he saw him and fired him but later a team manager asked the manager to hire him again saying two people were needed to replace him. | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 21:25 | comment | added | Lyrl | What is your current response to the worker being 4 hours late - is there a requirement to use vacation time? Does the worker stay late those days to make up the hours? Does he have any explanation for the irregular start times (child care issues, transportation, etc.)? | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 21:11 | answer | added | Neo | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 20:38 | comment | added | Old_Lamplighter | I'll tell you tomorrow | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 20:09 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| Jan 8, 2018 at 20:07 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | I want him so stop doing this. And It would be bad to lose him. Accepting him is also not a good option because it will make other workers feel bad and treated unfairly. | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 20:04 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jan 8, 2018 at 20:04 | comment | added | DarkCygnus♦ | What's your goal on "dealing" with him? Want to call his attention? Want to give him a warning? Want him to stop doing this? | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 19:44 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | Either accept his behaviour or start the process of getting rid of him. | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 19:43 | review | First posts | |||
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| Jan 8, 2018 at 19:42 | comment | added | yukashima huksay | Yes. I'm his boss. I don't know what you exactly mean by setting the expectations. But of course he knows and have been told many times that he shouldn't do this. | |
| Jan 8, 2018 at 19:39 | history | asked | yukashima huksay | CC BY-SA 3.0 |