Timeline for How to handle a project manager who is not getting satisfied with his own design/plan? [closed]
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| Feb 14, 2019 at 19:23 | comment | added | John Wu | I'm baffled that this question does not contain the phrases "scope creep" or even "requirements." Not once. These are such fundamental concepts for a software team to be aware of. | |
| Jan 10, 2019 at 14:46 | comment | added | Hilmar | @kiltek: this question is six year old. Things have changed a lot since then. | |
| Jan 9, 2019 at 12:23 | comment | added | kiltek | @Hilmar I knew that the very first thing someone is going to do is throw the "agile, scrum" thing at the OP. I think you forget, that from company to company the implementation of "Scrum and Agile" differs a lot. I would say that 70% of the time things like "retrospective, daily stand-up, planning, etc." are just abused and being manipulated by management to force things on to the devs. | |
| Nov 30, 2015 at 22:29 | comment | added | Euan M | @Amy Blankenship You don;t fire you manager. You get the organisation to constructively dismiss them from the position right on top of you. | |
| Nov 30, 2015 at 22:27 | comment | added | Euan M | You as a Tech Lead need Project Management training in concepts and skills. So does the Project Manager. The concepts will give you a common language to communicate in, and tools to aid you clarify the issues and deal with them. | |
| Nov 7, 2013 at 14:45 | comment | added | IDrinkandIKnowThings | @RajaprabhuAravindasamy - That sounds like exactly what I said. So the problem is you do not want to be Tech Lead? | |
| Nov 7, 2013 at 8:39 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 7, 2013 at 4:30 | comment | added | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | @Chad since we are a start up, I actually need to participate in developing too. See as a Tech. Lead, basically i have to work on some tougher parts of the project. And sometimes i have to review the other's codes too. | |
| Nov 6, 2013 at 15:39 | comment | added | IDrinkandIKnowThings | @RajaprabhuAravindasamy - Normally the Tech Lead's primary job is to review the work of the team, and handle those tasks beyond the rest of the team. Most of your duties should revolve around coaching the rest of the team to meet the requirements. | |
| Nov 6, 2013 at 15:11 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 6, 2013 at 12:24 | history | edited | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 6, 2013 at 12:19 | comment | added | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | @JoeStrazzere Yeah. Whenever i get a chance to speak with him, i was actually tried to explain the danger. But he is simply saying that "I am also an ordinary human being. My plans may go wrong sometimes. In order to point/correct mistakes we have appointed you as a Tech. Lead." See, how could i do the assigned tasks with high perfection if i try to point out that mistakes in control flow of the entire project daily.? | |
| Nov 6, 2013 at 12:11 | comment | added | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | @CodingKiwi I forgot to tell about the hierarchy of our company. Our project manager is managing the projects as well as he is one of the directors of the company. He is holding some shares too. | |
| Nov 6, 2013 at 12:09 | comment | added | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy |
@jmort253 As i am a non-native English speaker, I could not able to write the question with cent percent precision. Thanks for updating the same. You can see my above comment for Neuromancer to know about the nature of the question. I really did not ask anything about Project management. Again Thanks.
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| Nov 6, 2013 at 12:04 | comment | added | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | @Neuromancer Our project manager is Feeling unsatisfied about his new update after being made by us. Meaning He needs more, Not meant that he is unsatisfied with our performances. I guess that he is not making a satisfactory plan before initiating an update in our bigger project. I just asked that 'is this a common behavior with all PM? If not then tell me how to handle when he is making this kind of continuous unplanned updates?' | |
| Nov 5, 2013 at 18:46 | comment | added | Amy Blankenship | Hm, I guess your experience as a developer is different than mine, because the question read exactly as I expected from reading the heading. | |
| Nov 5, 2013 at 0:08 | comment | added | Neuromancer | @AmyBlankenship The Q title as written implies that the developer is not performing - the body of the Q is saying the exact opposite. | |
| Nov 4, 2013 at 18:17 | comment | added | Amy Blankenship | @Neuromancer I genuinely don't know what you're getting at. The manager is unsatisfied because he keeps changing the plan, and the employee has to figure out how to handle that situation. Not sure where you think there's an inversion--it's clear to everyone else here. | |
| Nov 4, 2013 at 16:37 | comment | added | Dunk | This situation is not uncommon for internal development projects. The solution is to simply change YAGNI "You aren't going to need it" to YAGNI (You ARE going to need it). In this case, the ARE is "ease of change". The simplest way to incorporate this is that every time a change occurs and it seems harder than it should, redesign to make it easier to change. At some point, the pieces do start falling into place nicely, assuming you have someone who knows how to make things "easier to change" on the team. This sometimes allows the project complete more quickly because of the better design. | |
| Nov 4, 2013 at 15:06 | comment | added | Neuromancer | @AmyBlankenship yes but using "unsatisfied" inverts the meaning of the Question | |
| Nov 4, 2013 at 0:43 | comment | added | Amy Blankenship | @Neuromancer I have seen this situation more than once in my own experience, so incompetent or not people need to learn how to deal with this kind of manager. You can't fire your manager. | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 17:20 | comment | added | Neuromancer | jmort253 sounds like to me that project manger is poorly performing - a blunter person might say incompetent | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 17:13 | comment | added | jmort253 | @Neuromancer - The project manager isn't satisfied with the plan he keeps coming up with -- his own plan. While the asker could mean unsatisfactory, from the context of the question it seems unsatisfied is appropriate. Hope this helps! | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 17:10 | comment | added | Neuromancer | do you actually mean "unsatisfied" did you mean "unsatisfactory" the title as written does not make sense in the contest of the question | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 13:47 | comment | added | jcmeloni | Possibly useful: Managing Up: How to Forge an Effective Relationship With Those Above You | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 13:10 | comment | added | Amy Blankenship | I disagree. The person asking is not a project manager, but is asking how to manage the project manager from below. And I don't think there are whole books that tell employees how to "manage up" in a situation like this. | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 2:30 | comment | added | jmort253 | Hello "An Employee". it sounds like maybe you're asking for ways to convince a project manager to adopt a certain methodology? If so, can you edit your question to reflect that? Also, as @jcmeloni says, if your question is process-oriented, this may fit better on Project Management SE. Just let me know what you want to do as I can move this over if needed. Hope this helps! | |
| Nov 3, 2013 at 2:18 | history | edited | jmort253 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 31, 2013 at 16:39 | comment | added | Fiona - myaccessible.website | In my experience it is fairly uncommon for a project manager to have more say than the tech lead of a project. You should be in a more senior position than them surely? | |
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Jim G. Joe Strazzere jcmeloni enderland MrFox |
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| Oct 31, 2013 at 13:45 | comment | added | Hilmar | Looks like a prime candidate for Agile development methods. Are any of you guys Scrum certified? | |
| Oct 31, 2013 at 12:58 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Oct 31, 2013 at 12:02 | history | asked | Rajaprabhu Aravindasamy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |