Timeline for Should a company simplify technical interviews just to increase diversity in workplace? [closed]
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May 19, 2018 at 3:01 | comment | added | user86764 | If you're hiring people who all think the same you need to changing. You won't know if this is a problem until you change and see the improvement. Algorithmic questions are good at finding out how people can think about complex problems. There often not a good match for the work software devs have to do. Understanding other people's code, discussing choices with technical and not technical people. Trade-offs between dev time and technical debt are often much more important. Teams need both strong coders, practical problems solvers, and communicators. Different people complement each other. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 8:51 | comment | added | Purrrple | @Ed Heal: as a woman I feel exactly the same. | |
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May 31, 2017 at 15:23 | comment | added | Wesley Long | @MathijsSegers - "..also not a lot of working women I guess" - If my grandmother was still around, I'd have her whoop your butt! Over 1 in 5 families lived on farms (in US), and women worked every bit as hard as men in keeping family farms running. | |
May 31, 2017 at 15:07 | comment | added | Tom Sawyer | Where I live, Canada, the government favorize cadidates from "minority visible population". Also, the government grant taxes credit to companies hiring people in those categories. Someone told me a story that they hired a guy that was a total technical failure during the interview but he was fitting in more than one category, good for statistics! While fixing a metro car, he almost kill himself with high voltage on the first week. | |
May 31, 2017 at 14:41 | answer | added | usr-local-ΕΨΗΕΛΩΝ | timeline score: 0 | |
May 31, 2017 at 14:25 | comment | added | user48276 | Vote to reopen - This is not an opinion based question. It is quite illegal in the US to implement the above policy (please see below). | |
May 31, 2017 at 14:23 | history | closed |
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May 31, 2017 at 14:21 | answer | added | user48276 | timeline score: 2 | |
May 31, 2017 at 14:10 | comment | added | Crizly | Honestly, It's a good way to get the free market sort things out. The company won't be around for long if it prioritises diversity over intelligence. I'd be very worried if I worked for a company with this mindset. | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:42 | answer | added | user50700 | timeline score: 5 | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:30 | comment | added | komodosp | @sleddog - increasing the viable applicant pool is what I meant. The ratio may stay the same but ratios matter little in a small application pool compared to a large one. (e.g. if 20% of applicants are black, but only 3 applicants get through the technical interview, chances are none of them are black). The boss might not believe the technical test is the end-all and be-all of an employee, so believes the stated goal is worth extra work of sifting through extra candidates. | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:20 | comment | added | helrich | Why do you need diversity? If asking hard questions tends to favor a certain group, then it sounds like "diversity" is holding your company back. | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:18 | comment | added | sleddog | @colmde This isn't casting a wider net. It's increasing the viable applicant pool, which means the ratio of fat, white neckbeards to every other minority will stay the same, there will just be more of them to sift through. If you want to hire a specific kind of employee, casting a wider net is exactly what NOT to do. | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:16 | comment | added | Dmitry Grigoryev | If you lower the bar for someone during the interview, you'll have be ready to keep that bar lowered throughout their entire career. Just saying. | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:15 | comment | added | komodosp | I know everyone is inferring that the boss believes women, LGBT or black people cannot comprehend difficult technical questions, but this might not be the case - he might simply be trying to "cast a wider net", in other words, being able to consider more people for positions gives greater opportunity for diversity. | |
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May 31, 2017 at 13:11 | comment | added | sleddog | @MathijsSegers What proven research are you talking about? | |
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May 31, 2017 at 13:05 | comment | added | Nitish | <sarcasm>So if a black, LGBT woman applies for the job, the job is definitely hers<sarcasm /> | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:04 | answer | added | Jeremy | timeline score: 8 | |
May 31, 2017 at 13:03 | comment | added | Mathijs | @ChristopherEstep do keep in mind that during those days (when she was growing up) there was little Computer Science :-), also not a lot of working women I guess so that's pretty neat. | |
May 31, 2017 at 12:57 | comment | added | Chris E | Everyone knows that Grace Hopper would never have gotten where she did without changing the tests and such.<sarcasm /> And for those who don't know, that's DOCTOR and ADMIRAL Grace Hopper, a pioneer in computer science. Look her up. | |
May 31, 2017 at 12:50 | answer | added | Kate Gregory | timeline score: 21 | |
May 31, 2017 at 12:50 | comment | added | Old_Lamplighter | @EdHeal as someone with disabilities, I feel the same way. | |
May 31, 2017 at 12:49 | answer | added | Old_Lamplighter | timeline score: 11 | |
May 31, 2017 at 12:38 | comment | added | Old_Lamplighter | Only if you think that black, LGBT, and other minorities are inferior to other candidates and not good enough to meet standards. Personally, I think it's more than a little racist to assume that anyone other than white males are smart enough to do a job without lowering the standards. | |
May 31, 2017 at 11:27 | review | Close votes | |||
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May 31, 2017 at 11:04 | comment | added | AllTheKingsHorses | Well, at least from the employer's rather chauvinist request to the dev it's pretty clear why they have a problem with diversity there ;-) | |
May 31, 2017 at 10:59 | comment | added | Ed Heal | As a gay man, I think it is a bit insulting to think that gay people require a technical test to be less challenging | |
May 31, 2017 at 10:40 | comment | added | AllTheKingsHorses | @JoeStrazzere I couldn't agree more - care to make that an answer so I can upvote it? ;-) | |
May 31, 2017 at 10:29 | comment | added | Neuromancer | You might want to consider not using text book technical questions in the interview | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:57 | comment | added | Snowlockk | So using race, gender or sexual orientation to select employees then saying we have these types of employees, we don't discriminate. Seems to me like you've already lost the moral high ground. | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:35 | answer | added | Andrew Berry | timeline score: 26 | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:30 | comment | added | sh5164 | @Julius That's true, pretty sure it's not on their resumes, and pretty sure you can't ask that in an interview | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:23 | answer | added | user34587 | timeline score: 11 | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:18 | answer | added | sh5164 | timeline score: 7 | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:15 | comment | added | Julius | That sounds very offensive. And also: how would they know they're interviewing LGBT people? | |
May 31, 2017 at 9:13 | comment | added | sh5164 | Seems illegal to me. | |
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