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Jun 22, 2017 at 15:05 comment added Spencer I'm not sure if that would be a violation. Even if it isn't I thought that going around the recruiter might not be appropriate since she told me not to discuss salary or money at all with the company I was interviewing with.
Jun 22, 2017 at 9:25 comment added onin Would sending a letter explaining you're turning down the job because of the low salary directly to the hiring company be a violation of the agreement you have with the recruitment agency? If not, go for it, you'll convey your message.
Jun 21, 2017 at 20:23 answer added AnoE timeline score: 14
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Jun 21, 2017 at 16:41 answer added T.E.D. timeline score: 13
Jun 21, 2017 at 16:02 answer added David Schwartz timeline score: 14
Jun 21, 2017 at 14:17 comment added mickburkejnr I had a similar situation, but it was before the interview. I told the recruiter the money I wanted, and while confirming the interview (2 hours before I was due to be there) she said she put me in for £5k less, and said she couldn't ask for more money at this stage as the salary she put me in for was the employers limit. I elected to cancel the interview, as I wasn't prepared to take a pay cut, and I asked the recruiter (by email) to not contact me again.
Jun 21, 2017 at 10:29 comment added fedorqui I thought the recruiters were always getting a percentage of the year salary that was negotiated with the company, so they would be the first interested in a good one.
Jun 21, 2017 at 8:24 comment added Rui F Ribeiro The recruiter is providing a bad service to the OP, but maybe they are working too well on their behalf. The request not to discuss salary with the final customer seems overly suspicious. Getting a neat monthly commission for a couple of months, maybe? In the past I already refused a not so bad expat position because it was evident I was being taking advantage by the middle men by a too large amount, and not being told the truth . I tried to find out the final client, but unfortunately only managed to get one layer up, however found yet another headhunter company.
Jun 21, 2017 at 6:17 comment added Beerhunter Is the role solely about the money? If there is opportunity for progression, healthcare, tax efficient share schemes etc., then these should be factored in. Are you currently in work? If you are and the salary is insulting, explain your concern to the recruiter. They normally get paid based on the seniority level of the job. What you're not privy to is any deal the recruiter has with the company. In my experience, they get in the way and reduce the efficiency of your dialogue with your potential employer. Be honest with her.
Jun 21, 2017 at 3:17 comment added Spencer I didn't pick the recruiter and the recruiter doesn't work directly for the company. She works for an external agency, think of a place like Creative Circle, Aquent, Vitamin T etc. I would love to go around her and talk directly to the client but I thought that would look bad on my part and that it might burn a bridge with the entire agency she works for. They work with many companies so there are always freelance opportunities and I'd hate to be blacklisted from all of those.
Jun 20, 2017 at 22:24 comment added Tony Ennis I would tell the recruiter to decline the job unless they meet your minimum. And you should not tell the recruiter your true minimum. Your recruiter is not your friend.
Jun 20, 2017 at 20:27 comment added David Schwartz Did you pick the recruiter? Does the recruiter work for the company? Did the recruiter call you out of the blue? How you handle it depends significantly on whether the recruiter works for you or the company.
Jun 20, 2017 at 20:15 comment added asgallant When the recruiter said she cannot go back to negotiate a higher salary, that is a red flag that she isn't working in your interest. Tell her to negotiate for at least your minimum salary requirements, or attempt to bypass her an negotiate with the company directly. Direct negotiation may not be possible, however, if the company's contract with the recruiter requires them to negotiate through the recruiter alone (which is fairly common, at least in the US). If you can't negotiate for yourself, and she won't negotiate for you, then decline the offer.
Jun 20, 2017 at 18:43 comment added BooleanCheese This is a negotiation tactic. The recruiters work closely with the company to make negotiation essentially nonexistent. At this point you either go back to the company and tell them your salary expectations or tell the recruiter that you won't be taking the job unless your expectations where met.
Jun 20, 2017 at 17:46 comment added WernerCD How much of a difference is the salary wanted/given? 5% lower? 25%? How strong is your negotiating position? Are you DESPERATE!!! for a job? or are you willing to pass this by and wait for a better deal? Those answers, I think, help decide whether to take or pass...
Jun 20, 2017 at 17:34 comment added Mark Rogers 3rd party Recruiter's often just want a deal to happen so they can get their cut, mostly regardless of how favorable the terms are to the either party.
Jun 20, 2017 at 17:33 answer added John R. Strohm timeline score: 112
Jun 20, 2017 at 16:48 comment added Michael I've had a recruiter go back and forth several times while negotiating. It sounds like this particular recruiter isn't going to do that. So obviously it will depend on the person you're dealing with. If you would be happy with the advertised salary, this seems like a reasonable thing for the recruiter to go back to them with and maybe you could convince them to do so. If you think you're worth more, either go around the recruiter if you're able to, or if you have faith they'll do a better job next time (I wouldn't) then let this opportunity go.
Jun 20, 2017 at 16:19 comment added Rup Does she have any explanation for why it's lower than the job listing? (e.g. you're missing experience they wanted?) I assume she was the one who gave you the job listing?
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