When interviewing for new position I was basically laid off from my last job due to lack of funding (research related position) but it's not my fault. However I did good work and the lack of funding is out of my control. Should I tell the truth as it kind of makes me look bad like why did you run out of funding was your work no good?
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2Does this answer your question? Is it unethical to say my current employer has financial problems when looking for another job?– gnatCommented Dec 24, 2021 at 12:02
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1Joe's question is an entirely reasonable one to ask considering your previous question indicated you considered yourself to be irreplaceable. Without any specifically relevant context this is essentially a duplicate of Reason for job change when current company is closed due to a funding problem– Lilienthal ♦Commented Dec 24, 2021 at 19:32
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@Lilienthal I did not know that the point of the site is too sift through people's profile to get info out of context for current questions but okay.– user129827Commented Dec 24, 2021 at 20:02
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1@naiva It's not. But context can be useful and the original poster might not always know what is or isn't relevant. We also sometimes see people who fabricate questions for entertainment value so many users are in the habit of checking post histories. As an example for this case: if you were at your last job for 15 years a simple "we were laid off because funding didn't come through" is likely a sufficient explanation.– Lilienthal ♦Commented Dec 24, 2021 at 20:54
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Were you laid off to shrink a team, or was everyone that did a certain thing laid off? Ie, do you do "X" and at a higher strategic level it was decided that they don't want "X". Or do you do whatever they require and were just first to get cut? If you were first to get cut, was there a discernable process (eg seniority, performance, high wages)?– NathanCommented Dec 26, 2021 at 11:08
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tldr: You should be address the risk of being perceived as a "poor performer"
Should I tell the truth
Yes. Never lie.
as it kind of makes me look bad like why did you run out of funding was your work no good?
You are concerned about the WRONG issue here. Unless funding was your responsibility, it is indeed out of your control and people get fired because of lack of money all the time. That's perfectly normal.
However, the people that DO get fired are often the poorest performers. If money runs out, companies typically have a choice whom to let go and they take this an opportunity to "cut the dead wood". They will find a way to keep their top performers even if money is tight. Your main problem here is that many hiring managers will assume you got fired first because you weren't as good as the others.
The question that you need to answer is "Why me and not Alice, Bob, or Charlie".
In many cases there are good answers to this. Example:
- A whole department and team was summarily dismissed.
- There is a change in direction (research or business) and your skillset is not required any more.
- The funding was tied to your specific position (which is a bit unusual)
- The whole company went under.
If none of these is the case, and they still kept people around that do similar work, than it's maybe time for a little introspection: what did Alice, Bob and Charlie do, that you didn't? How good was your work really and should you do change something? That would allow you to treat this as a "learning opportunity".
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2re: who gets fired first when funding gets tight? Could of course be poor performers. Could also commonly be the most senior non-management staff due to higher salary - to "maximize budget savings". Seen that pattern a few times. Fits with OP's previous questions too.– Pete WCommented Dec 24, 2021 at 16:38
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3That's pretty rare in my experience. Typically companies make a list that's rank ordered strictly by performance (relative to grade) and then work down the list until you meet the budget target. Salary can be a tie breaker or move the needle a bit if it's close. For most jobs the productivity difference between a poor and a great performer are orders of magnitude bigger than their salary difference.– HilmarCommented Dec 25, 2021 at 14:21
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What if the whole company went under but you were the only worker there with the boss, does that not make you look bad?– user129827Commented Jan 6, 2022 at 6:30
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@naiva: Sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you assuming that the whole company consists just of the employee and the manager ?– HilmarCommented Jan 7, 2022 at 13:18
Funding is based on the economy, the politics in your country, and a lot of other factors that have naff all to do with you. Your interviewer probably knows this already. So lack of funding doesn't make you look bad.
You should just say it how it is.
Me and my team were laid off because funding for Research Project X was pulled
I don't know the details around your specific problem, but a short sentence like the above, if it is true, you have no need to worry about.
Many people lose their jobs due to funding issues:
- The company loses a major customer.
- A government contractor loses the competition for the next fighter plane.
- The pizza shop is crushed by a hot new restaurant on the next block.
- A century old company can't change with the times and has to slowly close all their stores.
All those companies had outstanding people working for them. When asked why you left, just tell them. In some cases they will already know the story. In other cases they will have heard this similar story many times. You should be able to explain your situation in a few sentences, without it turning into a rant.
"Due to a loss of funding for the project they had to let some people go. I was one of them"
They may ask a followup question, but many will not, especially if it was clear that those decisions were out of your control.
Many people don't understand how research labs work.
You should definitely tell them you were let go do to lack of funding; but, you shouldn't lead with that statement (if asked). Instead you should indicate
It was a research lab, where the lab is funded by grant money. The Principle Investigator, my boss, is responsible for writing grant proposals; but, like all requests for free money, a lot of them get denied. I don't know why we didn't get enough money to keep all of our staff; but, as the (newest / lower raking) person on the team, when the money ran short, I was cut. That's too bad, because we were doing some pretty interesting stuff.
This clearly shows that it wasn't due to your control; and, it clearly shows that you don't know (beyond the money not being there) why the money ran short.
If you are transitioning to another lab, they are well aware of the culture (and will know you likely didn't even see a grant proposal).
If you are transitioning into non-research business, most people are well aware that you won't be working there if they can't pay you, no matter the quality of the work you supply.
Only a handful of awful people will judge your lab's failure as your fault, especially if you explain you aren't in charge of writing the grants or directing the research. If they pass you over for this reason, consider yourself lucky; it is soul-sucking to work for a person who blames others for items beyond the other's control.
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If the interviewers are involved with academic research, they'll know right off. The others, as Edwin pointed out, will have to be educated. Commented Dec 31, 2021 at 21:54