@rtaft you're taking it too literally. If you worked on a team of 10x-ers, you would know that you cannot dictate tasks to them. At best, you can share business deliverables that the team is expected to meet and hope they come up with a good solution. If that means cutting corners sometimes because they know which path to the goal is most efficient, then good luck convincing them otherwise. I've never seen a 10x dev get punished for "insubordination". Any boss that tried to trot out such a concept would get laughed at, and possibly lose their best performers, and then their team.

@MicahWalter never suggested you did. My point is that many Americans simply don't see eye-to-eye with you, as anyone who has worked at a domestic violence shelter can readily tell you.

@MicahWalter you're one man in a society of 320 million other citizens. If you track the national conversation, I can't say that a clear and obvious majority of those citizens agree with you. How hard would it be to find people who think it's ok to hit their wife/gf/child for causing trouble? We all live in bubbles.

@rtaft not when a man does it. Then it's called "taking the initiative". "Insubordination" is the kind of language someone uses when they are outraged that their authority has been impugned. It's kind of a big tell (meaning, a millenial is likely to respond with: "Ok, boomer.").

@Lodinn absolutely. I'm merely suggesting that if Issel were a manager, they could easily be the kind that sets a strict bar for female engineers and a relaxed one for males, without even realizing it. As for gamers, you are obviously too young to have played in Starcraft/Warcraft/Age of Empires LAN parties. I assure you that the gaming community was alive and well, even if that predates professional eSports.

@Issel I've seen lots of male engineers get rewarded for being arrogant and deliberately going against what their managers tell them to do, even when it sometimes results in losses. The way people are judged has as much to do with who they are as to what they did.

@JimmyJames you've cited a single data point. If you were one of the numerous folks who instead have higher expectations of women, would you be on these comments bragging about it?